r/AskMen Nov 30 '22

Younger men of Reddit, what advice do you have for older men?

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u/canadian12371 Nov 30 '22 edited Dec 01 '22 Rocket Like

Older men, have an outlet for your inner child. It’s what makes us sane.

Take some time off from your family and work every now and then and do what you loved when you were 18.

Keeps your soul healthy.

I’m gen Z, take my humble advice with a grain of salt. But this is what I believe.

Update: Thank you for the positive feedback! Although I am surprised how many of you older guys only liked to get drunk and fuck girls back in the day… maybe the generations are getting smarter 😂😂

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u/Icy-Chemistry-6943 Nov 30 '22

Hmmm. Ya have me thinking now

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u/holy_placebo Nov 30 '22

Preach, I'm 39 and I need some time to myself, my wife doesn't understand and never will.

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u/KoppigWijf Female Nov 30 '22

my wife doesn't understand and never will.

This is exaclty why I am single.... Having to live with someone like this is my worst nightmare.

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u/CIamdumb Nov 30 '22

Find someone who dose understand then, me and my girlfriend, while young, we get that maybe we just need some time to ourselves. Just don't start shutting then out, let them know what's going on and maybe just talk to them alot of the time, after talking it out we work it over in our heads and don't need the time off that we thought we did, but when we do need some alone time, trust and be there for each other.

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u/KoppigWijf Female Nov 30 '22

Listen I am 46, I have been single almost all my life and will continue to do so. I like it like this, it not also having time for myself that is important. But what also plays a role is I am a high risk taker, like sleeping on the street at 13 to escape the abuse by my so called 'parents" at 17 running away again to escape my human trafficking (arranged marriage against my will). Back then a girl from my backward honor culture could leave either the house married or dead. Well this lady at 17 walked out ALIVE and UNMARRIED...

Every interpersonal relationship I had( friends/SO's) that ended, ended because they got nervous about the decisions I made and they started nagging and whining about it to me. Apparently it is hard to accept and respect the decisions of someone who takes risks like I do.

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u/Chaosr21 Nov 30 '22

Yea I've been single for many years. I love the freedom. I used to be addicted to drugs, it's hard to find someone ok with my past. I'm an introvert though and I'm actually happy with the way things are. The only thing I'd change is my income.

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u/KoppigWijf Female Nov 30 '22

The only thing I'd change is my income.

I am in the same boat :D That is why I am going to uni at 46 to study Computer Science!

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u/holy_placebo Nov 30 '22

I'm doing the same thing! Went back an associate's, and I'm working in the industry while taking classes and learning from the bottom up.

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u/NegotiationAlarmed31 Nov 30 '22

Working on my Bachelor's Degree in Business Administration at 52!!!! I'm so proud of you!!!!!!!

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u/KoppigWijf Female Nov 30 '22

Way to go! I am proud of you too!!

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u/outcome--independent Dec 01 '22

Y'all go on kicking ass then :)

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u/Chaosr21 Nov 30 '22

Wow, that's what I'm going for too. Good luck.

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u/silent_porcupine123 Nov 30 '22

I'm in awe of you.

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u/ImpartialHawk Nov 30 '22

Thanks. I'm not sure if I count as an older man to you (I'm 43), but I'm still a gamer (PC). Just played SteamWorld Dig 2 (casual digging/exploration game) and beat it, and some Cyberpunk 2077 until it crashed (2 years later, it's still buggy AF, not sure if it ever won't be, but it's so fun otherwise).

I also love music and listen to it all the time.

Oh, and for my 40th birthday party, I had a pinata, which was busted open by a cosplay sword I have (foam sword, fiberglass core, the main sword from Sword Art Online), so that was fun for the kids to swing. And two cakes — one chocolate, and one strawberry. So many people said, "I'd come, but I have my kids that weekend," that I went to a lot of trouble to make it a kid-friendly birthday party. Had it at a park and all the other stuff. People brought their kids. I helped watch the kids around the playground equipment. It was a blast.

When you're 21+ (and sometimes younger), a good party is often defined by drugs, alcohol, and sex. But honestly, I think little kids have the best birthdays. They get cake and ice cream, they get to play, it's just more my scene being that I don't do drugs or alcohol. And yeah, sex is good, but I'm married, and faithful, so that's gonna happen before or after the party. Doesn't need to define the party.

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u/GameofPorcelainThron Nov 30 '22

Gen Xer here and absolutely agree. Connect with your values and your joy.

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u/Jimbo-McDroid-Face Nov 30 '22

I’m 45. I do exactly that. I can also say: “older guys: don’t think you can’t learn something from the younger generation.”

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u/MattieShoes Male Nov 30 '22

Heh, this is why "dad jokes" are a thing

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u/AmenadielVicez Nov 30 '22

The most memorable moments in my previous jobs were just doing silly stuff with my coworkers. Besides from playing sports we were always joking around and making pranks on each other and this was with a group of guys between the ages of 27 - 53 and the older guys were always the funniest. I was 22 at the time but the still treated me like and equal and with respect. Some older guys take things too seriously and they need to chill out a bit.

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u/GrayBox1313 Male Nov 30 '22

I still watch cartoons on Saturday mornings. Because I’m the middle aged King of the castle.

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u/I_am_Relic Nov 30 '22

I have been on this planet for almost half a century (fuck... That sounds ollllld)

I can't speak for other people (male or female) but i really have not grown up.

I am "mature" and responsible when its called for and i can give advice drawing from the many years of experience but.... Fuck it, i have never "grown up"

I'm married but still play video games and am amused by silly jokes.

So yeah bollocks to "growing up" 😎

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u/holy_placebo Nov 30 '22

Preach, I'm 39 and I need some time to myself, my wife doesn't understand and never will..

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u/wtbnewsoul Male Nov 30 '22

Get a nerf gatling gun and shoot near her to scare her off.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '22

Or a pet! The wife can chill with the cat/raccoon/dog while you do your thing!

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u/Imaginary-Mechanic62 Nov 30 '22

You’re not wrong. Now that the kids are out of the house, I’m am refilling my life with the things that give me joy

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u/Karlando113 Nov 30 '22

Stretch when you get out of bed, stretch before you get into bed!

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u/Ice-Berg-Slim Nov 30 '22

Stretching before bed especially your hamstrings will make you sleep like a baby, I literally cured most of my insomnia issues by deeply stretching my hamstrings every night before bed.

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u/vedumsucks Nov 30 '22

Seriously? Never heard of this!

I'm 34 years old. Is it too late?

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u/YungCamel Nov 30 '22 Silver Ally

Yeah sorry man the cut off for hamstring stretching before bed is 33 just missed it

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u/JoeRobertBal Nov 30 '22

You little shit haha

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u/glibgloby Male Nov 30 '22

Pretty sure there’s a series of painful surgeries he can undergo to cure fused hammies.

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u/BronzeAgeTea Nov 30 '22

Surgery? In this economy?

I got a chisel and a leather to bite down on in the back.

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u/GurrenDuwang Nov 30 '22

Sweet! I'm 32, so I'm in the clear. Am I allowed to stretch other stuff, too or is it just the hamstrings?

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u/Dinklemeier Nov 30 '22

Am old. Can confirm i should stretch more

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u/TomJDogHouse Nov 30 '22

My lower sore back goes away when I stretch my hamstrings in bed.

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u/Ice-Berg-Slim Nov 30 '22

Yeah often times lower back issues are caused by tight hamstrings. Honestly if you are only ever going to stretch one muscle make it your Hamstrings.

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u/freshairr Nov 30 '22

I bought some resistance bands and a foam roller and doing "band pull-aparts" (shoulders + upper back) + rolling for tightness is an amazing way to wake up/sleep.

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u/throw_away_315 Nov 30 '22

Make your bed every morning and open the damn windows.

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u/Wm_Max_1979 Nov 30 '22

any data to back this up? I haven't stretched for 50+ years. I sleep fine

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u/Karlando113 Nov 30 '22

A Lot of it is posture and what you do all day, sitting at the computer or manual labor, I do Manuel labor on my feet all day, throwing 120lbs on my right shoulder often, throwing my stand and center of gravity off, thus fucking up my back, haha. Going to a chiropractor, learning how to stretch and alleviate pain and correct posture

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u/Single-Ambassador727 Nov 30 '22

Youth can not know how age thinks and feels. But old men are guilty if they forget what it was to be young.

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u/commander_levi123 Nov 30 '22

realest quote. who's is it?

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u/Funkagenda Male Nov 30 '22

J.K. Rowling writing in the voice of Dumbledore.

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u/Single-Ambassador727 Nov 30 '22

Dumbledore, before he turned into Jude Law but also after he was Jude Law.

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u/MrMackSir Nov 30 '22

As an old man, with young adult neice/nephews this hits on the issue I try to fight agsinst.

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u/Xionus Nov 30 '22

The constant battle between the old and the young, is when older people are condescending and dismissive of the young, which makes the young not want to listen to the old. It's a cycle with both sides having their reasons. As someone who is kind of transitioning from being the younger guy at work, to having to work with people ten years younger, is that establishing respect is criical. Younger peopel anticipate being disrespected by older people and are expected to just put up with it. The first thing I do with younger people is immediately establish that I'm not going to talk down to them even when they're being silly. In return, they're more willing to listen to my advice.

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u/MuhnYourDog Nov 30 '22

It's also to do with an ideal I hold dear to my heart: respect is earned, not given.

There's plenty of fucking miserable old cunts who don't deserve anyone's respect.

There's plenty of stupid kids who throw themselves into the pot as well.

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u/Ganceany Nov 30 '22 edited Nov 30 '22 Gold

Stop fucking saying you are too old to try new stuff, specially when you are like 42.

And fucking train, I know it hurts, I know you ain't young anymore, but do it. A lot of the issues with bones and weakness that come with age specially in older older men come from a lack of training

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u/KazAraiya Nov 30 '22

I hate that too, when someone tells me that they wanna learn guitar, as soon as i make it real and tell them that i can teach them, they pull out this excuse.

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u/Fishtaco1234 Nov 30 '22 Silver

I put learning guitar of for 20 fucking years by always telling myself I was “too old..” it took the pandemic to get me to break this mindset and have played always every days since April 2020. I still suck ass and don’t know anything, but I’m having fun.

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u/HashIsTrending Nov 30 '22

I think the expectation of perfection is what keeps me from doing a lot of thing. I bought a ukulele after my friend showed me how it was such a fun instrument even if you didn't know much. It just sounds happy. So I bought one once when I was bedridden and (because of the lack of pressure of a goal) I learnt so much that I can't believe I ever put off learning to play an instrument

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u/determinedmind65 Nov 30 '22

I relate to this comment but with me it’s about making it a priority. I’m learning to do that slowly.

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u/Tomato_Juice_187 Nov 30 '22

Yes! Lifting weights can keep you in great shape when you're older and won't deal with any weak bones or anything like that. Finally someone said it!

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u/Kujo3043 Nov 30 '22

You just have to be extra careful. I tried learning squats last year (38 yrs old) and my form was just slightly off. Nothing crazy, just the bar and 15 lb plates because I was learning. Tweaked my back and spent a month recovering.

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u/Alsavir Male Nov 30 '22

Start without any weights. And a warm-up before is recommended. 32 myself and I do some light stretching before my workout. Saves me some cramps and co.

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u/sphincterella Nov 30 '22

This! Body weight can be just fine forever. Weights are good, but not needed unless that’s how you enjoy training.

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u/Kujo3043 Nov 30 '22

Absolutely agree. I prefer doing 15 mins on the elliptical (less joint stress) for warm-up, with some stretching before and after. Do another 15 minutes at the end of the set for cool down.

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u/Tomato_Juice_187 Nov 30 '22

Yes, having a good form is very important. Always best to look yourself in the mirror to make sure you're doing it right.

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u/Ganceany Nov 30 '22

I recommend you start looking at Bodyweight training, you won't get massive but it's a good way to train, get strong and specially healthy on the joints

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u/edgester Nov 30 '22

I lift weights, and I'm 45 years old. I want to be that swole old guy running rings around the younger crowd. LOL

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u/NregGolf Nov 30 '22

My grandpa is 86. He doesn’t “train,” in any way but he retired about 20 years ago and since then he’s the only man from his friend group that’s still alive. They all got stagnant; didn’t learn new things or stay active. He still works building grills and bikes for Walmart as a side gig and he says it keeps him alive and healthy and from what I see, I agree.

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u/ocelotrevs Nov 30 '22

I'm 35, and I'm trying to build myself up so I am able to enjoy my life if I'm able to reach 86.

I do a mix of physical activities and hobbies and switch between them.

I was at a gymnastics class a few months ago, and there was a man I was working with who was in his 70s.

That's the kind of thing I want to be doing.

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u/tampa_vice Nov 30 '22

I have determined that I never want to be too old or too smart to learn something new.

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u/GuestCartographer Nov 30 '22

Just turned 40 a few months ago and only just realized that I’ve been trying to put a lot more effort into lifting and exercise in general. Between that and cutting way back on the booze, I’m honestly feeling better than I have in years.

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u/Snoo-30255 Male Nov 30 '22

Your suposed to be one of the old men on reddit ? 40 year old ?

Im 30 what does that make me lol seasoned ?

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u/nola_mike Nov 30 '22

Lets looks at it like Madden difficulty settings:

Rookie: 13-19

Pro: 20-25

Veteran: 25-35

All Pro: 35-40

All Madden: 40 and up

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u/nola_mike Nov 30 '22

Man I pretty much gave up booze except on special occasions like Thanksgiving and Christmas. It's a game changer. Don't even know what a hangover feels like any more and I damn sure don't miss it.

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u/BgVkingCo868686 Nov 30 '22

....I drink while i lift weights... makes them 25lbs dumbells feel like 50. Weights are expensive, im on a budget.

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u/sphincterella Nov 30 '22

News flash, 40 is not old. It’s barely even middle aged. Get them mature muscles and give those little kids hell at the gym!

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u/arrouk Nov 30 '22

As someone is 42, I have been training on new technologies for 24 years.

I saw the beginning of the Internet.

I saw the beginning of mobile phones.

I saw the beginning of automation.

I saw the advancement of smart phones.

I have trained on new stuff every 2 -3 years of my working life. I'm sick of relearning everything tbh.

So no I'm not too old to do it, I am however too old to care anymore.

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u/thewarehouse Nov 30 '22

Hello fellow fortytwo'er

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u/Soggy_Loops Nov 30 '22

I’m currently a medical student (not a doctor yet but I still see a lot of patients) and I can say I see a lot of men aged 45-90. The single biggest factor that all the healthy guys that aren’t on a bunch of medication and are generally happy have in common is consistent exercise. Cardio is great for heart health obviously but even the dudes that consistently just lift are way more active and energetic well into their 80s

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u/sphincterella Nov 30 '22

Can confirm. I’m 57 now and still active with jujitsu and horses and fixing houses and the only time I feel old is when I stop all that for a few weeks. Getting old is all about being too busy to stay young. Get out and do stuff, or die, whatever

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u/MegabyteMessiah Nov 30 '22

It's true. I'm 43, been training since 2017. I have never been in better shape in my life. All my joints feel great.

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u/macrolinx Nov 30 '22

I'll be 44 in March, started really "working out" for the first time in 2017, and last year started working with a personal trainer 3 times a week doing strength training and lifting weights.

Never felt so good.

Yeah, I'm sore as shit every other day. Yeah, my T levels are lower than when I was young and progress is slow. But I found a trainer that I like who is around 30ish and understands that none of us are "young" anymore and isn't trying to kill me. lol

But my knees work like I'm a teenager again, and my shoulder problems have mostly vanished. I'll never stop.

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u/Fried_out_Kombi Nov 30 '22

My dad is in his 60s and recently started learning French. He's actually making pretty good progress. The difference is he makes genuine effort to learn. Too many people just give up at some point in life and refuse to learn anything new ever again it seems.

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u/FireMedic71619 Nov 30 '22

100% on the training. Its good physically but also mentally. Men who don’t perceive themselves as formidable anymore are more easily depressed

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u/Seamonkey_Boxkicker Male Nov 30 '22

I’d personally rather be active than simply “train”. Gyms are boring. Exceptionally boring. What’s fun though is playing games. Just because I’ll be another old fogey in another decade or two doesn’t mean I can’t have fun like I did as a kid. Volleyball, baseball, ultimate frisbee, soccer, basketball - finding other like minded adults who want to be active and competitive but aren’t taking themselves too seriously on the field.

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u/OrcOfDoom Nov 30 '22

I think that mindset works if you stay in shape.

It's really bad for people who fall out of shape. They sit at a desk for 15 years and then decide to play baseball, and throw their shoulder out. They try playing volleyball and throw out their back. They gain 40 pounds and try playing soccer only to break an ankle.

That works when you're young. I think older people should get a better grip on understanding how their body is weak, addressing those issues, and then starting activities in a deliberate manner. They should have some baseline for their fitness level that is best measured at a gym.

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u/RittyGeezus Nov 30 '22

Gym is only objectively boring, I have a ton of fun lifting weights personally

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u/repeat4EMPHASIS Dec 01 '22

I think you meant subjectively. Objectively would mean it's boring no matter who you are.

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u/Alsavir Male Nov 30 '22

Amen.

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u/eightbelow2049 Nov 30 '22

Damn. I’m 42. This felt like you wrote it for me

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u/ds_Gardening Nov 30 '22

I'm 40 and started training again about a year ago and I feel just as good as I did at 30. I don't train hard, but I think it's a good idea to strenuously engage some muscles in your body every day. At a bare minimum I do about 100 pushups a day and when I can I fit in a 20-30 minute workout.

I'll say though, I've never had a serious injury in my life, and my back has never been bad. That all helps a lot, I think.

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u/SoulfulYam Male Nov 30 '22

Bruh my last job was riddled with people in their 30s talking like they had one foot in the grave. I briefly had one employee who was in his early 30s and would constantly bitch and moan about how old he was getting. His favorite was to call attention to how fat he was (he was chubby, but not THAT heavy) and I wanted to yell at him so badly to fucking exercise. I've struggled with my weight and body image for years, but at least I started working out and fucking DID something about it.

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u/JohnnyWeapon Nov 30 '22

As a 42 year old man, both points hit home pretty hard.

Thank you for that.

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u/IronicStrikes Male Nov 30 '22

Just because you have done something for longer doesn't necessarily mean you're doing it better.

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u/KazAraiya Nov 30 '22

Also, just because you know more, doesnt mean that you know everything that someone who knows less knows. We dont all take the same path, a beginner could accidentally discover something that you never encountered!

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u/not_swagger_souls Nov 30 '22

There is a saying that is fairly common in English that typically is said as "a fresh pair of eyes"

It is used to describe how someone who has never seen something you are very familiar with may have a different perspective or view something more discerningly than you would. It is immensely valuable and unfortunately extremely overlooked a lot of the time

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u/sat_ops Nov 30 '22

I'm going to gloss over details to avoid doxxing.

My brother is a chemical engineer. Got laid off after a couple of years at his first job. Called a mentor and had a job the next day.

My brother's focus in school was petrochemicals and computer controls. His first job was very much on the controls side of things. New job creates metal alloys. My brother never took a metal chemistry class in his life. He was assigned to the R&D lab.

Normally, this group does projects that solve customer-prestented problems. However, when they have downtime, there is a bulletin board with other problems people have thought up that could use a solution, but there isn't a driving business need.

In order to process a particular metal, they needed to use an extremely hazardous chemical as a catalyst. Disposal of the waste was becoming a problem, as the disposal site was filling up and going to close in a couple of years. Eliminating the use of the catalyst had been on the bulletin board for years, but no one solved it.

My brother came in and figured out that if you ionized a certain household chemical, you could eliminate the need for the hazardous chemical, and the process was still 95% as efficient as the old way. The waste could be neutralized and disposed of normally.

This was in his first six months on the job. The guy who literally wrote the textbook on refining this particular metal wrote my brother, congratulating him on the discovery that he himself had been working on for 40 years with no success. He also offered him a job.

My brother's advantage was that he wasn't turning down solutions because they didn't fit conventional wisdom, because he didn't know what the conventional wisdom was.

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u/Theweasels Nov 30 '22

Imagine trying to solve a chemistry problem for 40 years and some fresh noob walks in and is like "bro just add window cleaner" and it fucking works.

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u/sat_ops Dec 01 '22

My brother talked to the guy for a while. The job offer amounted to: I'll give you an outsized stipend to come get your PhD here and work in my lab, and you will have a golden runway to replace me.

Instead, my brother stayed at the new job, they've repeatedly promoted him and even paid for his wedding with a "retention bonus" the week before the wedding.

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u/KazAraiya Nov 30 '22

Yes! Experience makes you immune to some things and a beginner will be more likely to notice them! Very good point!

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u/Jimbodoomface Nov 30 '22

I always try and be wary of this. Of course, I usually AM doing it better, but it doesn't hurt to take time to see how other people do things and make sure.

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u/molestingstrawberrys Nov 30 '22

Please start going out and working with the youth that dont have a father figure. I want older men to step in and help the boys who have been abandoned by dead beats.

So many children grow up without a father figure in their home. So what you can to give advice to these kids and mentor them. It makes a world of difference.

I'm 23 and I volunteer for this and was shocked to only see younger guys wanting to help. But as a 23 year old guy I cant give a 13 year old who's life is in the shitter good advice. I'm still trying to figure shit out myself.

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u/Enomu Nov 30 '22

where do you find these organizations?

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u/molestingstrawberrys Nov 30 '22

It depends where you live , I went with lads need dad's organization. But with some googling and asking around I'm sure you will find a place you can help out.

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u/Ok_Lifeguard_6508 Nov 30 '22

I do this. I'm very fortunate to have my employer's support to do so as part of my job. I work with a charity that specialises in helping NEETs (young people who are Not in Education, Employment or Training) get work ready and find employment.

I (M47), mostly work with young men. Almost always they don't have a father and almost always their mother has serious issues.

We take these rudderless kids, help them solve any issues that make them unemployable and get them into employment then basic education (literacy, numeracy, life skills). Then we get them into an apprenticeship and from there the sky is the limit.

It's a win win because we help people turn their life around and we get good, loyal workers as a result.

Then best thing is helping these guys form connections with men who have their shit together and take their responsibilities in life seriously. That shows them a world of possibilities they assumed were shut off to them.

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u/kdcab17 Nov 30 '22

Where could an old dad start participating in this wholesome endeavour?

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u/lukke009 Nov 30 '22

Get your prostate checked

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u/unreadable_captcha doesn't know shit about women Nov 30 '22

I get mine checked weekly by a dude on the walmart parking lot

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u/GurrenDuwang Nov 30 '22

Wow. So I'm just some "dude" to you. Just when you think you know someone.

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u/Four_in_binary Nov 30 '22

Father Mickey, we wondered why you hung out at Walmart so much.

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u/ratowner Nov 30 '22

That guy is the best

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u/lukke009 Nov 30 '22

Well that’s uh.. Good to know

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u/HoselRockit Nov 30 '22

Usually I have to pay extra for that

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u/Haccmantis Nov 30 '22

My wife doesn’t want to have sex with you. Stop hitting on her.

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u/Bastienbard Dec 01 '22

Definitely this, the number of creepy old guys when it comes to younger women who aren't even subtle about it who are also married is pretty bad. Even family members do it and beyond being creepy it's just sad and not a good look.

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u/ACarp911 Nov 30 '22

Be more coachable, being older doesn’t mean you know more than anyone younger or that you can’t be wrong.

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u/cankatango Nov 30 '22

Every dad ever...

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u/monstrinhotron Nov 30 '22

now listen here you little shit!

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u/Icy-Chemistry-6943 Nov 30 '22

Not true. My dad was that way. I hated feeling like I was stupid. So I raised my kids different. They have an opinion. Sometimes, they were right. Their way was a better easier way. So were not all the same.

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u/MalekethsGhost HyperMale Nov 30 '22

Leave some chicks for the rest of us

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u/SnooLemons5609 Nov 30 '22

Raising a whole generation with daddy issues - 5D Chess.

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u/MNgineer10 Nov 30 '22

As a man married to someone with (relatively minor) daddy issues. It’s not fun, it’s stupid as fuck, and nobody should strive to take advantage of that situation.

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u/FeistyEmu Nov 30 '22

Yup, being with someone with legit daddy issues is not something I'm ever interested in putting myself through ever again.

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u/FenDy64 Nov 30 '22

Hypermale

You'll waste them.

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u/promnitedumpstrbaby Male Nov 30 '22

Won't be a problem. They don't seem to want anything to do with me

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u/Darkone539 Nov 30 '22

Figure out a smartphone. Everyone I know who says they can't never tried, and the internet makes life so much easier.

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u/Chromattix Nov 30 '22

And if you still can't figure out a smartphone then at least get the model the majority of your closest family uses so if they're going to be your "tech support" every time you see them then they can at least blaze through whatever it is quickly.

My brothers and I are all iPhone users, so is my mother and we're the ones my nan see's the most. She uses a Samsung - none of us have ever had one of those. It might be "same shit, different brand" but the differences in interfaces can just be painful and I have no way to help her navigate that damn phone of hers or teach her how to use it after years of iPhone muscle memory on mine.

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u/Ndi_Omuntu Nov 30 '22

Other people's phones are like a rental car to me.

I think to myself "they're all pretty much the same now, you can figure it out." And then you're in it and thinking "shit this is not like mine at home, where's the xyz?"

Ultimately I figure it out quick enough, but it's a very disorienting experience almost every time and you realize how much you rely on recognition and muscle memory to do "simple" things.

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u/YouNeedToGrow Nov 30 '22

My grandma is in her 70s I believe and has minor vision issues, but she now sends photos (Not text because ESL) on Whatsapp and uses Tik Tok. She wanted to be able to stay in touch with family back home, and now she can through Whatsapp calls.

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u/dakota6963 Nov 30 '22

Don't grab or touch a girl when you're talking to her. See a lot of older guys do this. Don't think they realize or maybe they do

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u/melanthius Dec 01 '22

They know exactly what they’re doing, they just don’t give a fuck. I agree this is really creepy.

Even back in the day it was pretty trashy but some older guys would literally grab ass for fun, expecting a slap in the face at worst, if the girl was “offended” … only to reply “what?? It’s a compliment sweetheart”

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u/WarOnWolves Nov 30 '22 Silver

Just because you suffered from [bad thing], doesn't mean we also have to. The greatness of your generation is determined by how much better you make our lives.

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u/warrior_of_light998 Nov 30 '22

Eat healthy and quit smoking, don't be stubborn. Family and people around you still care about your presence

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u/AvusAltus Nov 30 '22

Keep an open mind and don't be afraid to challenge your opinions and worldviews

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u/ExhaustedMD Nov 30 '22

Check your balls regularly. Testicular cancer is one of the leading malignancies in men.

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u/skeptobpotamus Nov 30 '22

This advice is great. But it is more important for you young whippersnappers.

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u/xiiicrowns Nov 30 '22

Quit crop dusting in the super market

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u/Bootybootsbooty Nov 30 '22

Never it’s one of the small joys left for an old man

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u/KungThulhu Nov 30 '22

your fathers may have been part of a generation where any affection between men was seen as weakness or "gay". Your kids and grandkids wont call you gay if you tell them you love them. In fact many of them might need to hear that.

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u/Woodit Nov 30 '22

Educate yourself on common and current scams, yes you are being targeted because of your age.

Last year I had to beg my dad not to send a second payment of 2K to a scammer. He was confident that he knew better, but he did not, and it was the most common and obvious scam there is (fake check).

Read up on r/scams for a resource!

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u/cant_dyno Male Nov 30 '22

Tell your kids you love them and are proud of them. Sincerely the child of emotionally stunted parents.

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u/Young_Hxppxe Mandem Nov 30 '22

"I'm too old for that", is not a valid excuse. Just do it.

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u/civemaybe Nov 30 '22

I'm too old for bullshit; I think that's the exception.

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u/Every-Manufacturer88 Nov 30 '22

Ageism is a thing in hiring, and it's definitely more difficult to change careers.

My excuse is not having time for things. There was definitely more time for activities before kids. A few more hours a day would be great, but honestly I would still need more cause the first few extra hours would be spent on getting more sleep.

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u/Walden_Walkabout Male Nov 30 '22

Eh, there is plenty of dumb shit that I have no interest in doing anymore after getting it out of my system when I was younger. I may not be physically too old to do some things, but I've grown out of many things mentally.

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u/willbeach8890 Nov 30 '22

Most excuses, from young and old, boil down to "I'm too lazy"

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u/pmyourboobspleaseplz Nov 30 '22

Learn how to use a damn computer.

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u/baalroo Man Nov 30 '22

As a 42 year old guy in IT, this is my advice to young people under the age of 25 or so. People under 25 are, on average (in my experiences), as bad (or sometimes worse) than boomers when it comes to knowing how to use computers.

They're great with smartphones and tablets, but absolutely awful with actual desktop and laptop computers. At least a lot of Boomers readily admit they don't understand computers, but Gen Zers more often think they're brilliant at them, but have no idea how to actually do anything other than open/close programs and use an internet browser.

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u/YouNeedToGrow Nov 30 '22

When the pandemic started, my neighbours were explaning how their 10 year old needed to learn how to use a laptop (Windows/Mac/Linux) for online classes. Turns out she's ever only used smartphones, tablets, and Chromebooks. .

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u/baalroo Man Nov 30 '22 edited Nov 30 '22

Yeah, dealing with Gen Z in IT, they don't understand things like "The start menu" or the "task bar," are completely lost when it comes to things like file locations (having essentially no concept of how and where files are saved and how to retrieve them), and definitely almost never have any concept of the Task Manager or any type of troubleshooting at all other than "turn it off and back on," (which btw, 50% of the time means they reached up and turned off their MONITOR and then turned it back on again and are surprised that didn't do anything). To be fair, these are all things people in my generation learned in "computer class" which isn't even a thing anymore.

In fact, an absurdly large number of Gen Z people I've dealt with don't even realize the monitor isn't the computer, and would consistently refer to the computer as either "modem" a "hard drive thing" or just "the black box part."

We've actually discussed creating new training specifically because of the young folks coming into the workforce that simply shows them the various items involved with a computer system and describing what they are and what they do. Like "This is a monitor, it is responsible for displaying the visuals from your computer" "this is your computer, it does all of the computing and sends visuals to the monitor" "this is a display cable, you have to plug it from the computer to the monitor in order for the monitor to receive the visuals from the computer." This would help cut back on the number of new people who do things like plug their monitors into each other and then call because "the computer doesn't work."

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u/Sigma-Tau Nov 30 '22

Being Gen-Z (22y/o) myself, this is completely baffling.

Everyone I know personally who's around my age is, at minimum, familiar with the basics of computers you've mentioned, and is willing and able to figure out how something works by trying shit.

I just assumed that people were still willing to try to learn on their own...

Shows what I know I guess.

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u/desertsail912 Nov 30 '22

Do you know how many versions of the same damn program I've had to learn b/c the parent company decides they need to change things up every few years?

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u/pmyourboobspleaseplz Nov 30 '22

We’re not talking complex programs, we’re talking like learn to type.

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u/TemaerRemington Nov 30 '22

Quit drinking. It really helps a lot both you and people around you.

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u/Karchibo8 Nov 30 '22

Try to understand our point of view, the world your generation grew up in doesn't exist anymore

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u/tntwestfall Nov 30 '22

Quit commenting on girls photos that are literally like 18 years old telling them how beautiful they are and making sexual comments.

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u/FoxxyCleopatra75 Nov 30 '22 edited Dec 01 '22

Stay active, exercise, and eat healthy. Too many men (and women) I know 40+ with health or chronic pain issues that could be solved by living a healthier lifestyle.

My dad is 50 and has the health and looks of a guy in his 30s (minus some grey hairs) because he goes to the gym 4-5 days a week and eats super healthy. I'm grateful he pushed that onto me and hope to look as youthful when I'm his age.

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u/killmaster9000 Nov 30 '22

Let go of racism. It was different back then is not an excuse. You’re never too old to learn to be a better person

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u/BCS24 Nov 30 '22

Realise when you’re being old and grumpy, it can push people away for good.

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u/Gilgamesh107 Nov 30 '22

raise your kids right, people nowadays have zero issues cutting off toxic parents for life.

Masculinity isnt inherently toxic

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u/GoatsAndGlory Nov 30 '22

Learn how to Google shit. Just because your "not good with technology" dosent mean u can't learn.

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u/ricardorosila Nov 30 '22

When there’s a new young guy at your job don’t be a dick to him just because he’s young, it’s not his fault you don’t get any attention from the young or mature women there

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u/tarheel_204 Nov 30 '22

I much prefer working with the new guy who’s got a positive attitude and willing to learn than the guy who’s been there 30+ years who’s a dick to everyone and thinks they know everything

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u/fighterpilotace1 Male Nov 30 '22

I jump at the chance to take on and train new younger kids. Keep them away from the crabby and racist old timers who make everything miserable

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u/burningriverallstar Nov 30 '22

Also teach them how to do things right. I also make a point to make sure they aren’t afraid to ask questions. So many times I’ve been able to improve processes just because a new hire asked me a simple question and got me thinking. And I make sure they get the credit for it as well.

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u/fighterpilotace1 Male Nov 30 '22

Spot on. I always teach safety as the most important no matter what or who says so.

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u/burningriverallstar Nov 30 '22

This 100%. There’s absolutely zero reason for some kid to come in and immediately blow out their back (or worse) and suffer for the rest of their life. Safety is always first.

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u/slimfastdieyoung Nov 30 '22

And even the smaller things. I know what it's like to have tinnitus so I will always bang on about the importance of earplugs to new workers

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u/kerplunkerfish Male Nov 30 '22

Just shut the fuck up about how easy it was for you when you were our age.

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u/SoulfulYam Male Nov 30 '22

Stop disregarding our problems and not taking them seriously because we're "young". We're going through very serious shit too.

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u/jameswilllewis Male Nov 30 '22

Stop pretending to be younger than you really as to remain “relevant”. You’re most valuable being exactly who you are.

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u/congob0ngo Nov 30 '22

Don't listen to videos on tiktok without a headphone.

Thanks.

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u/Halflifefan123 Nov 30 '22

Your experiences of growing up are completely different from ours. We live in a world that might as well be a foreign country to yours.

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u/Mirphus Nov 30 '22

Just cause you're older doesn't mean I have to automatically respect you. Respect goes both ways, respect is earned not given. I fucking hate it when they pull this trash over asinine bullshit. Especially when they know they're losing an argument.

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u/Tiredplumber2022 Nov 30 '22 edited Nov 30 '22

Younger girls really DON'T want to have sex with you, no matter what their website says...

EDIT: I have been corrected. It should read "younger women". I'm a bit of a dinosaur, it seems

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u/confusedbytheBasics Nov 30 '22

Young women however...

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u/Possible-Reality4100 Nov 30 '22

Never stop learning and being open to new ideas and experiences.

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u/Ok-master7370 Nov 30 '22

Smoke some weed old timers you've earned a rest

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '22

hi5 young dude, hi5

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u/LogSlayer Nov 30 '22

I’ve been smokin since you were 2!

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u/pixiegod Nov 30 '22

Lol…some of these kids might’ve been mine from a stoned one night stand!

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '22

Don’t be so harsh on dudes who play video games I get where ur coming from but like any hobby u might have some of us have this one

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u/ImpartialHawk Nov 30 '22

I feel this even though I grew up with Atari/NES. I still game, but there's still a gap between what I consider to be gaming, and what millennials/GenZ or whatever consider gaming. Today's gaming is more online/competitive and cosmetic purchases are valued, at least by some. That's not me, I really just like single-player adventures, and I value a game that is completely yours once you pay for it, as opposed to something you're always paying toward to try to get a leg up over the next guy.

Gaming has changed over the years. I'm just glad my kind of gaming is still around.

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u/PMMeYourPinkyPussy Nov 30 '22

Take it easy, my dad is 65 and still gets up early everyday and goes work on his farm, I know that he likes it and keeps it busy, but come on, he is widowed, has a pretty good pension and absolutely does not need to be putting that many hours, and he has always be like this, most day offs/weekends were spent working long hours, I got it that he loves to do that, but come on, get a personal day, travel to some other city, visit the one son that lives far away and has kids.

Long story short, take some time to relax and say fuck the world, it will help you.

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u/ProPCGaming Nov 30 '22

Do not be one of those people that becomes reliant on young ones because you are either too lazy or think you're too incompetent to learn how to use newer technologies. Use youtube and Google or books and hands on experience to learn how to do things.

One of my biggest issues I have with some old folks is that they just stopped learning. I'm only 23, but I'd like to think I'd still be interested in learning in retirement. I get it if you're 80+, new stuff is hard. But if you are still fully mobile and still in complete control of your faculties but just refuse to learn new shit, I dont feel sorry for you.

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u/cRedditting Nov 30 '22

Step out of the way and let the younger generation lead. Don’t be power and authority hogs.

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u/Daedalus308 Nov 30 '22

Not that an old person on reddit is likely to need this advice, but dont be dead-set on refusing to acknowledge a changing world. Dont be the guy who refuses to learn the device they must use every day just because "im too old" and "kids these days". That kind of intentional muckery is literally more work than unintentional learning

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u/LilCorbs Nov 30 '22

Treat each person like an individual if you want to give them advice. You may have seen it all but you haven't seen me yet.

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u/ASKIFIMAFUCKINGTRUCK Dec 01 '22

When you take pictures of yourself, don't hold your phone below eye level.

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u/mr_reclusiv3 Dec 01 '22

Just because you're older doesn't mean you're right

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u/tub-o-lard Nov 30 '22

I think this goes for any person of any age but don’t be scared to be vulnerable. Tell people what you appreciate about them, what they do for you and so on. Whether it seems like it or not, younger people do look up to older folks when they seem like a person to be looked up to, so model the way and be the person you felt like you needed to see when you were young. Understand that with time, certain things change—if you think the way that something was done in the past was the better way, you can express that in a way that can be educational and not just assholish. Lastly, allow your inner child to come out; we will all get older physically, there is absolutely no stopping that. The way to stay young is to laugh, joke around and approach situations with the wonder you had when you were 5.

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u/Red_Trapezoid Nov 30 '22

Stop leering at women and girls. Also those "hilarious" sexist non-jokes aren't funny.

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u/willbeach8890 Nov 30 '22

Luckily this is only an older guy thing

/s

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u/Red_Trapezoid Nov 30 '22

Unfortunately you're right but I've known old guys that just seem to be so much more obvious about it like they don't care at all.

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u/thestrangedavinci Nov 30 '22

Don't assume that you will get respect from young men just because you are old. If you want to be respected by young people, you should respect them as well.

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u/Ok_Condition_7817 Male Nov 30 '22

Spend more time with your family

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u/Uninvited_Goose Nov 30 '22

Use a different password for every account you have to log into, And make it a strong one.

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u/EconomyIndependence2 Nov 30 '22

Man kids these days have it tough too. Or even tougher. It's not a competition. We are getting fucked over and over

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u/LobaLingala Nov 30 '22

Stop being set in your ways.

And seniority doesn’t mean you’re right, smart, or have the best solutions. The sense of superiority from age does not get you respect.

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u/Dean5412 Nov 30 '22

I'm sure you aren't old for sports, it's way better and healthier than watching TV all day

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u/limpidlipid Nov 30 '22

Don't envy our youth. If you do, then also realize that we envy your wisdom and experience.

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u/KsmHD Nov 30 '22

STOP BEING SO DAMN ANGRY !!!

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u/RMZ1225 Nov 30 '22

Young Men for older men? That's adorable.

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u/capital_alex Nov 30 '22

I'm 35, so I guess I can give advice 😁

Just. Admit. That. Younger. People. Could. Have. an Opinion. That. Is. Different. From. Yours. Your age doesn't give you the legal permission to judge people and doesn't automatically make your decisions right.

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u/shamwowitschow Nov 30 '22

Stop stealing all the single 20 year olds you bastards