r/PublicFreakout Dec 01 '22 Take My Energy 1 Shocked 1 Silver 2 Wholesome 1

Busy Apple Store in California casually robbed in broad daylight Non-Freakout

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u/liarandathief Dec 01 '22

Let's take these gps enabled devices

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u/_stinkys Dec 01 '22

They will all be tied to iCloud accounts in kiosk mode. Absolutely pointless to steal.

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u/alpineflamingo2 Dec 01 '22

This is my immediate thought. Who cares about gps finding them? They’re bricked the second they walk out the door.

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u/CandyButterscotch Dec 01 '22

Because they don't care if they work. They'll flip them to suckers on FB marketplace or something. They will just say they can't make calls because they don't currently have active service. People desperate to buy their way into happy holidays will often overlook too good to be true "deals" on stuff like this.

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u/4672656542656572 Dec 01 '22

I used to work with a cellular carrier and we had a bunch of these scammers try to come in and ask us to put a unregistered sim into these phones to show it connects to the network.

They always connect. It’s for emergency services. This does not prove the phone isn’t stolen or the IMEI isn’t blocked.

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u/al4nw31 Dec 01 '22

Probably older phones though. These newer ones won’t even get past the activation screen.

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u/4672656542656572 Dec 01 '22

Yes. For perspective I haven’t worked in wireless for almost 7 years now. 911 services should still work, though I can’t confirm that.

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u/DrZoidberg- Dec 01 '22 edited Dec 01 '22

I work in the industry.

Phones without sims can still call 911.

With all the protection around ports and accounts we see more identity theft using somebody else's information rather than sim swaps now

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u/DiabeticDave1 Dec 01 '22

Exactly, I (currently) work for a carrier. A lot of the time we’re the ones breaking the bad news to the customer; no this phone can’t be activated it’s been flagged as stolen.

“I can’t get my money back”

If buying a phone second hand, meet them at your cellular provider to verify it will work.

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u/PrincessBinky Dec 01 '22

I feel like it would be easier and more profitable if they just stole all of the accessories that are hanging on the wall.

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u/FlametopFred Dec 01 '22

you are probably now on an FBI watch list of criminal masterminds

expect an lethal force robot at your door momentarily

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u/DiabeticDave1 Dec 01 '22

Seriously though. As commented already on this thread, they’ll sell the phones to people dumb enough to get scammed…. But accessories could be sold through Amazon with 0 effort and are completely untraceable.

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u/moistpup Dec 01 '22

Apple really should push a message to the homescreen that says “permanently locked stolen phone. You will never be able to activate this phone.”

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u/DarkYendor Dec 01 '22

You’ve been able to do that with your own Apple device for ~10 years. They just stole $30k worth of paperweights.

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u/Amazing-Cicada5536 Dec 01 '22

I’m fairly sure they do. These won’t go to the “hello” screen ever.

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u/ZonigMeHala Dec 01 '22

They are bricked in North America but many parts of Europe and pretty much every other parts of the world this phone would work. There is huge industry where thieves will sell bricked phone to India, China or Bangladesh and people there are able to reeverse any ban on it so it works on their country

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u/notjawn Dec 01 '22

Yeah I ran into one of these rings set up as a tech recycling program front that shipped them to SE Asia. It was pretty crazy they'd pay like $50 for a generations old Samsung Galaxy and Apple iPhone.

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u/Jadelitest Dec 01 '22

I work with corporate phones (ios & android) and omg stealing these managed devices is possibly the dumbest thing you could do

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u/Chocolat3City Dec 01 '22 edited Dec 01 '22

I'm crediting them with having the intelligence to know to set up a Faraday compartment for this purpose, but maybe I'm being generous.

I doubt they'll get far.

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u/muddymoose Dec 01 '22 edited Dec 01 '22

Do you have any recommendations for a small faraday box? All the reviews for the consumer ones I find say they dont block shit

EDIT: Thanks everyone! Looks like Im about to have a microwave in my room

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u/Chocolat3City Dec 01 '22

I wouldn't trust the consumer market. I'd probably try to do some research and make one myself.

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u/ithcy Dec 01 '22

Nice try, FBI

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u/Chocolat3City Dec 01 '22

Damn, so close!

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u/FIRST_PENCIL Dec 01 '22

Just use a microwave.

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u/throwawayy2k2112 Dec 01 '22

Buy a roll of aluminum foil. Make a case at least 10 layers thick. An envelope would work for car keys. Boom. Done. If you want to test it, put your phone in and call yourself. If it rings, make it thicker. If it doesn’t ring, you’re good.

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u/Shadow0fnothing Dec 01 '22

You are giving them WAY to much credit bud.

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u/istirling01 Dec 01 '22

Your assuming someone in law enforcement will follow up with this

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u/cjmar41 Dec 01 '22 edited Dec 01 '22 Helpful

Thieves take $35K in merchandise from Apple store on Black Friday

Two people who entered the Apple store at Stanford Shopping Center in downtown Palo Alto on Nov. 25 during busy Black Friday sales events at the mall made off with an estimated $35,000 in merchandise, Palo Alto police said.

Palo Alto police are investigating that occurred at the Apple store at at Stanford Shopping Center in downtown Palo Alto on Nov. 25, 2022. Embarcadero Media file photo.

The theft was reported at 4:17 p.m. The duo took multiple iPhones and laptops, acting police Capt. James Reifschneider said.

A store employee heard one of the thieves make a general statement to the crowd of shoppers of physical violence toward anyone who attempted to stop them. The threat elevates the crime from a burglary shoplift to a robbery, Reifschneider said. No weapons were seen and no one was injured.

The duo fled in a red Mazda3 hatchback and were last seen by a security guard traveling north on U.S. Highway 101.

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Edit: Source article was updated at 9:29 PM PST to reflect the proper location. I’ve updated the comment to reflect this.

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u/Few-Afternoon-6276 Dec 01 '22

Um- iPhone tracker? Hey Apple! May want to “find your iPhone”?

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u/apmesmqc Dec 01 '22

Apple will brick those devices before these guys get home.

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u/meco03211 Dec 01 '22

That was my thought. How do they make any money other than trying to sell a brick and hope you get the money before they figure it out?

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u/Upstairs_Hospital_94 Dec 01 '22

Apple would be the last devices I would steal. They just took a bunch of gps trackers.

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u/N0cturnalB3ast Dec 01 '22

Right????? Shmoes, really. Shoulda gone for the wall of accessories fucking scrubs. Beats headphones. Every apple iphone case is $50

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u/Katerwurst Dec 01 '22

Watchbands for hundreds of dollars…

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u/thefloatingbutt Dec 01 '22

Do they look like they’re smart enough to do that?

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u/Fifteen_inches Dec 01 '22 edited Dec 01 '22

I believe they can make money by selling them to tech recyclers, who dismantle the phones for parts and then sell them at wholesale prices to secondhand shops.

Other than that they might just not be very bright criminals. Theiving is a lot harder nowadays with a cashless society, you have to steal and fence merchandise now which is a lot less profitable.

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u/c0rruptioN Dec 01 '22

Doesn't Apple have something for that as well? I could have sworn I saw something about getting errors after swapping parts in phones. And also certain functions being blocked.

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u/The_Lord_Humongous Dec 01 '22 edited Dec 01 '22

Apple is making it more difficult to even part out a device to get another device working. Seeing as how these are the latest models I don't see how they can make any money on them at all.

Edit: They'll probably sell to idiots who see it start up and the thieves say "oh just take it to a 3rd party computer/phone repair shop and they'll unlock it for you." FYI Ain't no 'unlocking' of iPhones for years now. There is an encryption chip that starts up before the boot process. On iDevices, too.

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u/LUNA_underUrsaMajor Dec 01 '22

They should have opened up a crypto exchange instead if they wanted to steal money

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u/broskeeper60 Dec 01 '22

They're stealing in broad daylight with 30 people filming them. Do they seem like the brightest of the bunch lol.

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u/Roadman2k Dec 01 '22

Tbf it looks like they're getting away with it

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u/dingusfett Dec 01 '22

Why would staff risk their safety for a bunch of tech that'll probably be bricked before the thieves even get home?

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u/shaggybear89 Dec 01 '22

sell a brick and hope you get the money before they figure it out?

Seems you've answered your own question.

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u/james1234cb Dec 01 '22

Red backpack still has the store tag on it....how likely/comical would it be if he stole the bag but did not cover his face for that crime at a different store in the mall.

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u/TheWalkingDead91 Dec 01 '22

They probably got bricked automatically the moment he left the mall.

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u/RichardTheHard Dec 01 '22

They stole display modes, those are pre-bricked. They aren’t actually functional phones.

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u/SuperFLEB Dec 01 '22

If that's the case, they should make them do something like scream bloody murder, turn on all the sensors and stream data back, and not be able to be turned off if they don't disconnect right.

That said, it's probably not worth the R&D, on the whole, I suppose.

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u/Krombopulos_Micheal Dec 01 '22

Don't forget the fart spray

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u/MostBoringStan Dec 01 '22

And the glitter bomb

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u/BitchesLoveDownvote Dec 01 '22

It would be quite the spectacle. Build off of the crash detection feature to detect them being yanked to break the cable, and every stolen device begins sounding a siren they can’t turn off.

I doubt Apple would want to do that, though. Their customers first question would be “If they can detect them being stolen, why cant my iPhone do that too!?”

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u/Limitr Dec 01 '22

Apple don't make pre bricked display phones, iPads or Macs. Even their demo devices are fully functional. They simply install demo software that can be easily removed by wiping the device.

That said the devices are usually tied to AppleID's with Find My Device active. So they should be able to disable the phones that way or internally Apple Stores may be able to report the stolen serial numbers and IMEI's to Apple themselves who can put locks on it.

Source - Spent 8 years at a retail store that sold Apple and now I fix them.

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u/TK421isAFK Dec 01 '22

What about the ones that automatically get bricked as soon as they leave the store? I've seen it happen in person - a friend on mine is an Apple Store manager in the SF Bay Area, and she walked about 10 feet outside the store to demonstrate them auto-bricking (on a phone that was being removed from an older display). The phone said something like "IMEI Invalid" and "Permanently Disabled" on the screen once she got about 10 feet outside the store.

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u/Ok-Play-7891 Dec 01 '22

Honestly from the video it looks like some super heist but in reality those dude are just idiots.

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u/KilgoreTroutPfc Dec 01 '22

Oh elevated to robbery. I’m sure PAPD will have them working in shifts.

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u/69karlhungus69 Dec 01 '22

Leads…

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u/yesdamnit Dec 01 '22

Ha

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u/whoawut Dec 01 '22

Leads… hahahaha

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u/TakingAMindwalk Dec 01 '22 edited Dec 01 '22

You want a toe, I can get you a toe. Hell I can get you a toe by 2:30...with nail polish on it. Fucking amateurs!

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u/BigWooly1013 Dec 01 '22

I wouldn't hold out for the tape deck though

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u/Bach-Bach Dec 01 '22

They have us working in shifts.

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u/PantsUnderUnderpants Dec 01 '22

Or the Credence

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u/robbass343 Dec 01 '22

“Obviously, you’re not a golfer”

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u/MinimalistLifestyle Dec 01 '22

It was found in an abutment.

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u/Yardsale420 Dec 01 '22

Your lucky she didn’t get chopped.

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u/Ecstatic-Abies2238 Dec 01 '22

The boys down in the crime lab are working in shifts

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u/TraditionalRecover29 Dec 01 '22

Guess we can close the case on the rug.

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u/127phunk Dec 01 '22

Hey at least they got the Credence tape

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u/prfalcon61 Dec 01 '22

Cmon man, I’ve had a rough night and I hate the fuckin eagles man.

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u/wronganswer12 Dec 01 '22

I hate the fuckin eagles man!!

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u/nosnhoj15 Dec 01 '22

Get out……

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u/ggbouffant Dec 01 '22

Not sure why they say Stanford shopping center, this is clearly the Apple store in downtown Palo Alto on University Ave

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u/Space_ShieldMaiden Dec 01 '22

Yeah, it def the one + it’s closer to 101, so their route make sense.

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u/ShaiHulud1111 Dec 01 '22

Yeah, I’ve lived down the street and work at the university—definitely downtown. The mall is a trap.

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u/everything_is_bad Dec 01 '22

By the In-N-Out burger?

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u/MoufFarts Dec 01 '22

Those are good burgers, Walter.

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u/mlaislais Dec 01 '22

Shut the fuck up Donny

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u/jopolous Dec 01 '22

This is definitely the downtown Palo Alto one, I bought some stuff there just a few weeks ago. …right before getting my car window smashed for nothing. The bay is getting crazy.

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '22

"The duo fled in a red Mazda3 hatchback and were last seen by a security guard traveling north on U.S. Highway 101" which is some distance from Stanford Shopping Center. Were they being followed?

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u/Space_ShieldMaiden Dec 01 '22

The article states wrongly which store it was. That’s the one in Palo Alto near the 101 Highway. So them fleeing in that direction makes sense.

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u/SpaceCatYoda Dec 01 '22

Closer to 101 but not by much

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u/MotoFuzzle Dec 01 '22

$35k?! They must have made off with a monitor stand and a pair of headphones.

Joking aside, I would be reluctant to steal a bunch of electronic devices loaded with gps and Wi-Fi. I feel like the whole precinct would be following them with a bunch of geniuses telling them where to go.

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u/Lower_Analysis_5003 Dec 01 '22

Heh, this guy thinks cops actually track down these kinds of thefts. Hilarious.

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u/Apathi Dec 01 '22

Probably depends on your area. I got robbed at gunpoint, and they stole 28,000 worth of cellphones from my stores safe. Had 1 of them in custody by the end of the night, the other a few months later after being on the run.

Granted, not much tracking had been done but they still made sure to get them.

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u/XXSeaBeeXX Dec 01 '22

So…30 iPhones.

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '22

30 phones all presumably reporting their positions to the network continuously.

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u/Fearzebu Dec 01 '22

Wow, when you put it like that it doesn’t sound like nearly that much, especially since they seemed to be mostly display models that only function partially and only when attached to apples in-store encryption, they’re utterly useless to anyone before they’re activated and a lot of display models anymore won’t even be real phones lmao

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u/fade2black244 Dec 01 '22

This. What are they going to do with 30k worth of bricked gear? They'll have to jailbreak to do anything useful with them. Not to mention the built in lost/stolen tracking they have. All around these guys were super careless, it wouldn't surprise me if they get caught very soon.

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u/Kraymur Dec 01 '22

They're going to do the bare minimum to make them look usable and probably sell them online.

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u/zeCrazyEye Dec 01 '22

In the end they're actually robbing PayPal.

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u/Butthole--pleasures Dec 01 '22

Less than 30 minutes after they left those IMEIs were blacklisted. I've worked in and owned cell phone stores. It just isn't worth stealing demo phones. LPT they're good for trade in promotions but that's about it.

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u/Plantsandanger Dec 01 '22

I’d be surprised if every iPhone in that store that’s on the floor didn’t have a find my phone feature turned on in case of theft

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u/sonnytron Dec 01 '22

They’re store demos. They’re worthless as normal iPhones. Maybe useful for parts but not even jailbreaking them will make them useful because even jailbroken phones require activation to be used on Apple Store.

Plus the phones are given encryption through the USB cable.

They basically stole something that makes it a felony of property theft that’s only worth a few grand to them tops.

They’d be better off robbing Target.

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u/TheCastleMan Dec 01 '22

Real talk: Target stores are meticulously designed such that there are no spots in the store where you're not on camera. They have some of the most advanced video forensics software in the world, so much so that they helped the local PD in Minneapolis solve a triple homicide. They also have the highest rate prosecuting people for theft in the retail world

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u/Sea-Slide348 Dec 01 '22

Does this mall or store not employ security staff? I imagine the incident would have been reported after maybe a minute or so and would assume some of them could have made it to the store by the times these guys leave.

Yes, I understand liability, thanks. I'm not a Yank but what a topsy turvy world we live in where this type of behaviour can go on willy nilly.

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u/Rainbow_Unicornx Dec 01 '22

Security guards in the states are nothing more than glorified scarecrows. Main job is just to observe and report. They probably did report it just takes time for PD to show up and by the time they do the thieves would have left by then.

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u/SpaceCatYoda Dec 01 '22

That store has been robbed countless times, a few years ago they installed bollards because plowing a car into it had happened one too many times

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u/devilpants Dec 01 '22

I was at the apple store in Los Gatos when it got robbed during the middle of the day. A few guys walked in and snatched a bunch of stuff from the tethers and then ran out. This happened when I was talking to one of the employees and he barely seemed to care. It was back working mostly normally within a few minutes. I think they were more worried about stopping any business than the 5 macbooks/iphones or whatever.

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u/cjmar41 Dec 01 '22 edited Dec 01 '22

We're very litigation happy in the US. People love lawsuits, so it's less of a risk (for a store) to let people run off with products. Basically, criminal opportunists are exploiting the loophole that is corporation's fear of liability.

The problem has been exacerbated in larger cities where the justice system is overworked. Generally, prosecutors may be less inclined to go after petty misdemeanors with their limited time/budget, so the charges get dropped or pled down to avoid a trial.

So the criminal opportunists are in a sort of a risk/reward conundrum. Cities are cracking down on this stuff now because it's gotten rampant enough (especially in the press), so i think the risk for the criminals will begin to rise a bit.

That said, I travel a lot and live in San Diego, and I've never seen this. I'm in LA fairly often, never seen it. I was in San Fransisco about a year ago and didn't see it either, but I did see signs in SF warning people not to leave valuables in cars. So, while this is certainly happening, the internet makes it seem like it's a constant thing when it's really more sporadic.

I agree it's totally unacceptable and society can't operate like this... but it's a lot less frequent then it seems on a sub like this.

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u/Tacotruck1176 Dec 01 '22

well there was a video of a lowes security guard killing a guy stealing used pallets, so the 2mil settlement or judgement in the lawsuit is worth more than the security or anything else in that store.

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u/HelpfulFoundation817 Dec 01 '22

Aren’t those things basically junk at that point?

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u/Sarcastic_Troll Dec 01 '22

They gonna turn and sell them on Craigslist without even booting them up

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u/CultofHappy Dec 01 '22

Still searchable powered down if it has a battery.

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u/aardw0lf11 Dec 01 '22

And I bet one of their favorite places to sell them is Facebook marketplace. And FB couldn't care less.

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u/Spmhealy_ADA Dec 01 '22

Resale of parts. Theirs a whole industry of iPhone parts in China https://youtu.be/3Ws3YptLmLQ

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u/MajorPownage Dec 01 '22

Nahhhhahhaahhahahahahaahahhahaahahahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh

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u/mooseyjew Dec 01 '22

It for real looks like at least one of those bags has tags on it lmao. The red one specifically.

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u/ChoppedAlready Dec 01 '22

wild choice to steal a red backpack....unless you know all the cops on duty are colorblind then slightly medium brained.

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u/effervescentlucidity Dec 01 '22

Worked for Apple for a while, no chance they do absolutely anything with those devices unless they completely remove the hardware and use the outer parts (screen, buttons, etc) as a shell. Not only are they trackable, but those mother fuckers are going to be Remote/Activation Locked almost immediately.

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u/Joliet_Jake_Blues Dec 01 '22

You know how people used to hollow out TVs and make fish tanks?

These phones could be the world's lamest ant farms

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u/_mully_ Dec 01 '22

Apple Ant Farm ... $899. ...Sand sold separately.

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u/givemeabreak111 Dec 01 '22

Even the new Iphone cameras and home buttons are code locked .. so even the parts are damn near worthless

.. at best they can use them in scams and sell them to rubes

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u/gunh0ld_69 Dec 01 '22

Wow these Black Fridays are wild - 100% off!

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u/GoryRamsy Dec 01 '22

This is in the palo alto area. Watch sfbay.craigslist.org to see the phones go on market lol. Idiots.

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u/GoryRamsy Dec 01 '22 edited Dec 01 '22

LMAO

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/mob/7563308334.html

all "like new" "new" or "in box" Huge price decrease.

edited to remove potential identifying information because we have no way of proving theft for any of these devices, along with stopping any redditors from harassing innocent sellers. left the obvious scam iphone up because that’s almost positively stolen or fake.

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u/CorvetteCole Dec 01 '22

most these seem super legit. included accessories, boxes with manuals, a few even include screenshots of the apple serial lookup site. The purple iphone is sus to me for sure tho lol

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u/Reasonable_Barber923 Dec 01 '22

in a $500 BAPE sweater lmaooo the jokes write themselves

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u/-ScruffyLookin- Dec 01 '22

A couple years ago these hoodies were truly rare and expensive. Nowadays every random chap who wants to look rich has a fake that looks trash.

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u/Fear20000 Dec 01 '22 edited Dec 01 '22

People wear that to look rich? Every time I saw someone wear it while growing up in nyc I think i had the opposite thought.

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u/ButtholeSurfur Dec 01 '22

This thread is the first time I've heard of Bape. But no one is buying $500 sweaters in Ohio.

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u/Imperial_Eggroll Dec 01 '22

They’re fakes

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u/Josephv86 Dec 01 '22

In their line of work likely stolen

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u/Various-Month806 Dec 01 '22

Yeah, made in a sweatshop in China, unlike the...oh.

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u/ToastedMarshmell0w Dec 01 '22

Probably a rep

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u/Reasonable_Barber923 Dec 01 '22

lolol. these reps these days are so good im not buying real anymore at this point

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u/WizardSenpai Dec 01 '22

all made in the same places anyway

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u/loneliness_sucks_D Dec 01 '22

They know.

It’s not about stealing them for their own use, it’s about selling them to other people

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u/Affectionate_Ear_778 Dec 01 '22

Or parts. Only apple has genuine apple parts.

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u/Madly_Maxie Dec 01 '22

That's why I get certified aaple parts.

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u/2Pac-X Dec 01 '22

I'm more of a Sumsung guy.

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u/THEMACGOD Dec 01 '22

“It’s just ‘G’ now, Jack! I sold the the ‘E’ to Samsung. Now they’re ‘Samesung’.”

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u/MegaDroogie Dec 01 '22 Ally

I've been in the mobile repair industry for going on a decade now, so I feel the need to bring up that what others are saying about those parts not working in other phones isn't true. Well, it mostly isn't true. The only part that won't work in another phone is anything involving the face ID, notably one component of the front facing camera assembly and a component on the proximity sensor cable. Those parts will still be almost completely functional. The receiving phone just wouldn't have face ID functionality. The front facing camera and the proximity sensor/ear speaker will still work perfectly fine. The screen and battery will also work in the recipient phone, but will give an error message that it can't verify the parts are genuine. That message goes away in a couple of weeks and the parts function as designed. And all the auxiliary parts like speakers and cables and motherboard components will work perfectly fine if salvaged correctly So, yes, you can salvage parts from these.

That being said, there's no money in it. The repair components marketplace is absolutely flooded with cheap, high quality parts, both OEM and aftermarket. There are some very large and reputable parts suppliers that offer a warranty on their parts. If I need parts for something, it is usually cheaper and more pragmatic to buy them from a trusted supplier than some person coming off the street and selling me used equipment with no warranty or guarantee of quality.

The risk wouldn't be worth the reward to steal the devices to use or sell for parts. The only money to be made is unsuspecting people buying right before holidays without knowledge of the product and getting stuck with a worthless piece of tech. So that's almost certainly what they're doing if they're smart, which is a big and baseless assumption on my part.

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u/DamnAlreadyTaken Dec 01 '22

Since one or two generations ago even swapping between two identical iphones would give issues.

One of the many videos about it: https://youtu.be/4T_E72dXz4I?t=590

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u/iamacheeto1 Dec 01 '22

I don’t understand tho. Apple knows all those IMEI numbers and will shut them down halfway out the door. Won’t they all just become useless?

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u/Psychoboy Dec 01 '22

That doesn't matter when they still then to someone else via craigslist or Facebook market place

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u/EdithDich Dec 01 '22

People are stupid, but who buys a phone without even seeing if it turns on first?

My money is on these thieves just being dumb and not realizing all of this will be useless. Maybe they're try to sell a few to idiots who don't check first but I doubt that was their original plan.

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u/darkenseyreth Dec 01 '22

I work in phone repair, I'll get someone every couple months come in because the phone they bought off market place isn't working. Sometimes it's apple/google locked, sometimes they just didn't verify the old account had been removed, and sometimes it's because the IMEI is flagged. Lots of different ways for people to get scammed, sadly. Other times it's people trying to scam me into unlocking their stolen devices so they can resell them, which I am very firm about not doing until I see concrete proof of ownership.

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u/jlboygenius Dec 01 '22

If you can unlock it, I'm sure these burglars can too.

Is an imei lock un-fixable?

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u/Psychoboy Dec 01 '22

it will still turn on just not make any phone calls and such and that is easy to throw off saying it's just not activated.

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u/nighthawk_something Dec 01 '22

Apple should display a screen that says STOLEN PRODUCT CANNOT ACTIVATE! DO NOT PURCHASE when a phone is bricked.

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u/kanuk_ Dec 01 '22

even globally blacklisted phones have value to the right buyers

https://youtube.com/watch?v=3Ws3YptLmLQ

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '22

here i was, interpreting your comment as: the two upstanding citizens seen here will never have a job outside of boosting phones. what you actually meant just clicked in my brain tho.

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u/Clit420Eastwood Dec 01 '22

lmaoooo I thought OP meant they’ll never get a job greeting customers outside the store ha

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u/laustic Dec 01 '22

this made me cackle. “These guys will get what they deserve… they just blew their chances to work as Apple greeters!”

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u/Greatwhiteo Dec 01 '22

That's what I thought too, recently I was at a TMobile store and the employees told me all the phones work normally because they want customers to experience 100% of the phone. Being tracked is another thing.

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u/DreamsAsF Dec 01 '22

I work in this space and if they’re on display, it’s got a demo running constantly (perhaps not in apple stores but definitely in carrier locations). Most of the time this means less functionality and a reset of the settings every 24hr, sometimes they wipe photos too but it’s rare. I would bet apple display models have the same demo we’re running and it’s useless as a proper phone. It’s all about selling it to someone who doesn’t know any better. Btw if you make us empty the safe in the back, there’s a tracker hidden in a phone box at every store and it’ll definitely be part of your haul.

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u/JennBenitez20 Dec 01 '22

how does this even happen? like every apple store i have seen near me, has guards and not just one, they usually have a couple

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u/skytomorrownow Dec 01 '22

every apple store i have seen near me, has guards and not just one, they usually have a couple

In nicer areas (no offense), like Palo Alto, there are no guards at Apple Stores. The Apple Store near me in a snazzy mall has no guards, but the one in the nearby tourist area has them.

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u/Talador12 Dec 01 '22

Same. I know stores don't go after shoplifters in favor of employee safety, but every single apple store I've been to has a policeman or three in front of the building

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u/Sarcastic_Troll Dec 01 '22

I'll be honest, if someone comes in stealing phones, the last thing I would do is pull out my juicy, easy to take from my hand iphone, and film.

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u/ViciousNakedMoleRat Dec 01 '22

They don't want to mess with people. They know that the store itself has a policy to not interfere and they count on other people not giving a fuck as long as they just take the store's products. It seems to work well.

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u/Jonas_Venture_Sr Dec 01 '22

I actually saw a robbery like this last Sunday at the mall near me. I was with my kid, but even if I wasn't, I am not doing shit. It's not my shit their stealing, and I already have had a shotgun pointed at my face once this lifetime, so I'm good.

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u/darkenseyreth Dec 01 '22

I was working in a big box store when a bunch of young guys come in with hoods up and strings pulled tight around their faces. They went straight to our apple section, yanked all the iPhones and Macbooks off the displays and walked out. Managers saw them coming and immediately radioed to not interfe at all. Best part was watching one of them trip over a monitor that was on special in the aisle. We all laughed real hard at that guy.

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u/SinnerBefore Dec 01 '22

I already have had a shotgun pointed at my face once this lifetime

I too have a crazy ex-wife

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u/Fanfics Dec 01 '22

oh la de dah, look at mr Big Roller who can get a wife to point a shotgun at his face.

Come down off your high horse and do it yourself like the rest of us.

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u/TheClinicallyInsane Dec 01 '22

So, where'd you get the kid huh? Steal it?????????

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u/atvcrash1 Dec 01 '22 edited Dec 01 '22

Can confirm the last group got caught cause they took customer devices which can be track live. https://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/17-arrested-charged-in-1-million-Apple-store-13263453.php

edit: to note this is why nobody should touch them https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/5-arrested-after-organized-retail-theft-in-walnut-creek-apple-store/

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u/pukingpixels Dec 01 '22

Stolen red backpack still has the tags on it 🤣

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u/LittleWrinklySausage Dec 01 '22

These man were just making their way through the mall getting a whole new wardrobe and accessories

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u/brunoglopes Dec 01 '22

Respect to the workers actually protecting the customers with their own bodies. There wasn’t much of a physical threat to anyone but still, that was very nice of them to do.

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u/giantyetifeet Dec 01 '22

It's really GOOD how the Apple employees were focusing on protecting the customers. Like legit shepherding them away from the criminals or even placing themselves between the criminals and the customers. WAY TO GO APPLE PEOPLE!

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u/MickeyTM Dec 01 '22

They're geniuses

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u/smasha100 Dec 01 '22

I bet the employees did some training for this scenario since it’s been happening a lot. Just let them steal, stay back and get customers to do the same. Like everyone has said, the phones will be deactivated and useless why get in their way.

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u/raznt Dec 01 '22

Aren't those demo models basically worthless? The store has all the IMEI numbers and can just brick them.

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u/VerySuperGenius Dec 01 '22

Doesn't matter. They're still identical to a $1000+ device and look brand new so getting $300 from some idiot on craigslist is easy.

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u/muihuddin Dec 01 '22

Even non demo models are useless once stolen

Apple has alot of control over their devices

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u/Atlantic0ne Dec 01 '22

Are you suggesting these people aren’t intelligent?

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u/Poopoopeepeepuke Dec 01 '22

Why is it always 140 black guys in hoodies? Is the cutoff 150lbs and then they say no more grab and dash robberies for you.

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u/Tardyninja10 Dec 01 '22

what many people dont know these are demo units and can only be removed from demo mode by apple on top of that since they have the serial they will just icloud lock them. Essentially theyre junk, but of course they will just sell it to someone for cheap as soon as they can to off load them fast

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u/SoftPenguins Dec 01 '22

Estimated value of the theft was $35,000. They got away with a single MacBook Pro with 64 gigs of ram and 3 TB ssd.

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u/wclevel47nice Dec 01 '22

Funnily enough, if you spec a Mac Pro (desktop) to the max, it’s around $50k

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u/ChrisFox-NJ Dec 01 '22

They‘re going to scam people on craigslist with icloud locked phones

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u/boywonder5691 Dec 01 '22

This is so depressing.

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u/fluffandstuff1983 Dec 01 '22

I think when they are booted up, it will notify the person that the phone is reported stolen and useless. Even if they put in a new sim card.

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u/gram_parsons Dec 01 '22

I'm sure they know that, but they'll leave out that fact when they go sell it on the street.

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u/binkerfluid Dec 01 '22

Every one of those devices trackable?

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '22

Trash scumbag lowlifes.

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u/Ya-Dikobraz Dec 01 '22

So he has a bag full of bricks. Nowadays, even parts swapped from other phones don't work because there is now hardware pairing.

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u/ravanor77 Dec 01 '22

None of those devices will work, they are locked down and not activated. Basically, stealing bricks.

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u/wattur Dec 01 '22

Expensive looking bricks to sell to others, or scrap them for parts. Screens, batteries, cameras etc can be salvaged and used.

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u/1credible_cow Dec 01 '22

membership only, or id scans is where we are headed... how much theft does Costco have? I know many dive bars with better security.

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u/RetractableBadge Dec 01 '22

how much theft does Costco have

Used to work at a major Costco location in a upper-class suburb. Our LP had daily apprehensions.

Recently at another location here, I noticed they posted a staff member at all times near the emergency exits... and a stack of Pokémon card sets.

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u/Nice-Emotion-7465 Dec 01 '22

This is the Apple store on University in Palo Alto, I live within a 5 minute walk from here. This is not the Stanford location as I can see Joya across the street. The PA police station is within a 2/3 block radius and the PA police usually has a cop car parked across the street near Joya watching the store. I dont know why there wasnt any police watching the store that day. But this is all getting so sickening, and wish there were tougher punishments for these low life thieves.

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u/Elluminated Dec 01 '22

These heroes should be escorted through the store so they can pick up as many tracking devices as possible and caught quickly

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u/brotherlymoses Dec 01 '22

Are iPhones even worth stealing? My dad got his phone stolen last week, they threw away the sim card and turned off the phone, but the phone was still trackable offline. My dad went to the house and told them about his phone and threaten to get the police involved, they got so scared they gave him the phone back lol

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u/N3phar1ous Dec 01 '22 edited Dec 01 '22

If you see a guy with his hood up, mask on and walking goofy because is pants might as well be around his ankles get out of there

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u/BongLeach562 Dec 01 '22

I doubt these can be sold for parts.

Starting with the iPhone 13, almost every part that’s worth money has a unique serial number that is locked directly to that particular iPhone. That’s why you can’t just swap in a new screen at your local phone repair shop. That goes for the camera module and motherboard too.

They do this so you can’t repair your own phone, you have to send it in to apple and pay their ridiculous fees. There’s this whole debate going on about “Right to Repair”. There are devices that can replace the serial numbers but those are not commercially available.

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u/chidoOne707 Dec 01 '22

Well, that keeps happening anywhere in the USA not just in the state of California.

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u/homelaberator Dec 01 '22

Well, that was a pointless exercise.

These will all be centrally managed by Apple. As soon as they are connected to the internet, Apple has the option to brick them or track them or do whatever else they like.

Excellent chance of being caught.

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