r/WhitePeopleTwitter Oct 06 '22 Silver 1 Helpful 2 Wholesome 1 Bravo! 1

Elon Musk tries to use map from 2012 to support Russia's invasion of Ukraine and a geopolitical expert sets him straight

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u/PMMEYOURCOOLDRAWINGS Oct 06 '22 All-Seeing Upvote I'll Drink to That Duck Dance Eureka!

Is Putin funding his Twitter takeover now that his initial investors backed out? That’s the only reason I can see him dying on this hill for no apparent reason whatsoever.

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u/darthdope123 Oct 06 '22

Yeah I really don’t get this, like I know Musk thinks he’s the smartest guy to ever walk the earth and just likes to be the “both sides/pragmatist guy” who clearly supports one side. But I don’t get what he gets from taking this wildly unpopular stance unless he really does just believe his own bullshit.

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u/PMMEYOURCOOLDRAWINGS Oct 06 '22 Take My Energy

It’s almost always to do with money. The guy doesn’t have any ethics or morals so if I had to guess, he has received funding. Narcissist only spend other peoples money. Russia is well known for buying out right wing pundits and “thinkers”. Tulsi gabbard, Mitch McConnell, trump, poodle hair guy in congress, the NRA…

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u/darthdope123 Oct 06 '22

Yeah that’s got to be it right? I guess I was thinking he’s one of the richest people in the world or maybe the richest right now I don’t really keep up with the Forbes list lol so how can they buy him? But yeah he definitely didn’t get to the net worth he’s at being an ethical guy. Greed knows no bounds.

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u/singed_butthairs Oct 06 '22 All-Seeing Upvote

Honestly I think it’s his ego in this instance. He made one stupid comment, got called out by a Ukrainian. That call out went viral and now all he can do is double down over and over because he’s insecure. It’s similar to how he handled the soccer kids in a cave issue.

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u/KnowTouching Oct 06 '22

Narcissistic injury. As absurd as it is that he can’t let stuff like this go in public, in his mind these events absolutely consume every thought. He is deeply unhappy.

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u/kylehatesyou Oct 06 '22

It's the cave guy all over again, just instead of calling one dude a pedophile, he's backing an dictator's illegal war and annexation of a sovereign nation.

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u/DrSafariBoob Oct 06 '22

Key feature of NPD, they can't process their own emotions, only create situations that others feel them and process them for them. It's... Wildly sick.

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u/Sillbinger Oct 06 '22

What's he got planned next?

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u/pandacoder Oct 06 '22

His own illegal wars and annexation of lithium deposits.

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u/Sillbinger Oct 06 '22

That isn't so far fetched.

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u/bagoink Oct 06 '22

Why is it that the people who can most afford to go to therapy are the ones who refuse to do it?

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u/doctorzaius6969 Oct 06 '22

He can't afford to lose face

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u/Grogosh Oct 06 '22

Poodle hair guy....ha. Rand Paul.

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u/Peuned Oct 06 '22

let's not tie poodles to that shit. i like poodles. they're cool.

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u/BentoMan Oct 06 '22

Elon is definitely r/ENLIGHTENEDCENTRISM material

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u/bozeke Oct 06 '22

He is far worse than that at this point.

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u/reyeg79383 Oct 06 '22

The matter is simple, Biden is supporting the Ukraine, so conservatives don't. Conservatives love Elon, so Elon must support Russia because "his people" do too.

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u/Optimal_Towel Oct 06 '22

Ukraine, not the Ukraine.

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u/Chary-Ka Oct 06 '22 All-Seeing Upvote

Here is a electoral map of 2012 in USA. You can see Blue won. So Blue should just be in charge from now on.

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u/Flayre Oct 06 '22

Clearly this justifies an invasion of the US by Canada. We have to save the blues from the reds lol

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u/Intelligent_Moose_88 Oct 06 '22

Don’t make promises you can’t keep!

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u/[deleted] Oct 06 '22 edited 8d ago

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u/quaybored Oct 06 '22

I for one welcome our new Greylien overlords

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u/jonathanrdt Oct 06 '22 edited Oct 06 '22

Wait is that an option? No one ever said that was an option. We cant have a monarch on our money though: that’s legitimately ridiculous.

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u/RamenJunkie Oct 06 '22

Please temeber to save Illinois if you do.

Um.... Eh? Do I say Eh at the end?

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u/sgthulkarox Oct 06 '22

Go with 'ope'. It's native Wisconsin.

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u/bubzki2 Oct 06 '22

Honestly, the red states could secede and that'd be okay. Oh wait, they already tried that and lost.

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u/Wise_Ad_4816 Oct 06 '22

Meh. I wouldn't send my son's to die trying to keep them this time around. They can secede and then fuck right off. Live without those federal monies. Pull yourselves up by your bootstraps.

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u/Smanchungus Oct 06 '22

You won't need to. The military will just drone them all from the stratosphere after they post on social media and reveal their location.

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u/Cheesehacker Oct 06 '22

Right? As a veteran I laugh at all these MAGA insurrectionists. They have no air support. Air support wins 9/10 times.

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u/SnorlaxMotive Oct 06 '22

That’s a lot of BIPOC we’d be leaving to the mercy of white supremacists

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u/gard3nwitch Oct 06 '22

We could welcome them as refugees/asylum-seekers, and resettle them here. It sucks that they'd have to leave their homes, but sometimes you can only do so much.

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u/[deleted] Oct 06 '22

So elon is pro russia now. That dude really always was a shit stain wasn’t he.

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u/oldbastardbob Oct 06 '22

I think he believes himself to be the cool intellectual contrarian but in reality he's just a narcissist from a wealthy family.

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u/TigerUSF Oct 06 '22

"cool intellectual contrarian" is probably the best description for the cancer that's eating away our society. i kinda think all our problems start with that group.

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u/TavisNamara Oct 06 '22

It's wild how literally every single one of them is actually an obnoxious, narcissistic contrarian. None of them are cool, and if they're intelligent they sure don't seem to use it.

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u/oldbastardbob Oct 06 '22 Take My Energy

There's a personality type here that I'm fairly familiar with, the person with above average intelligence who thinks they are a genius.

Everybody knows at least one. That 115 IQ person with an extrovert personality who thinks they know more than everybody else about everything and can't fathom that the quiet woman with the 165 IQ is smarter.

I have this theory that I have zero proof for. That this group is the most likely to exhibit the Dunning-Kruger effect. Too much confidence to self analyze and understand who they really are and what they really know well.

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u/RamenJunkie Oct 06 '22

In my experience, people who are actually smart, don't care about "IQ".

Not saying everyone who doesn't care is smart. But for the most part, the only people who do, would probably fall under "thinks they are the cool intellectual contrarian".

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u/Windex007 Oct 06 '22

People wildly abuse IQ as justification for this-or-that. It's a normalized measure of capacity for pattern recognition.

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u/RamenJunkie Oct 06 '22

I imagine its also something where there is probably like, 1 "official actual real test" for science or medical purposes, and then there are 500,000 "Facebook Tests" that ask if you recognize the color Green.

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u/frawgster Oct 06 '22

The smartest people are often the folks whose names you’ll never know and whose faces you’ll never see.

In my experience, smart folks are self aware enough to understand that they’re not the smartest person in the room. That level of self awareness tends to lend to humility, which lends to “names you’ll never know and faces you’ll never see”.

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u/LisaMikky Oct 06 '22

I heard a quote somewhere

🗨A lot of troubles in this world happen because smart people are always full of doubt, while stupid people are full of confidence.🗨

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u/Epopanonymous Oct 06 '22

Oh cool, you've met my brother.

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u/Important-Goal8041 Oct 06 '22

Well, there was also the rise of anti-intellectualism that started really taking off around the time Sarah Palin became popular that gives us the current brand of GOP politics. However, the "cool intellectual contrarians" seem to step in to lend credibility to the anti-intellectual contrarians. And I stress the quoations in that label. It's an interesting duality.

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u/ArkitekZero Oct 06 '22

"cool intellectual contrarians" are just anti-intellectual contrarians with better branding.

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u/Visionarii Oct 06 '22

Self declared edge lord.

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u/Beowulf1896 Oct 06 '22

Probably got a call from Putin about selling cars in Russia.

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u/wskyindjar Oct 06 '22

How many Russians can afford a Tesla? The average annual salary is like $17k USD

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u/CasualEveryday Oct 06 '22

It was like 15k last year. I'm guessing that it's declined a bit since then, but buying power isn't as bad as that would indicate. Credit is a whole different thing over there, though.

In any case, Russia is a major petroleum producer who can't sell on the open market right now. Domestic fuel prices are low, electronics are expensive. It's the stupidest place to try and sell overpriced EV's.

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u/dangerousbob Oct 06 '22

Space.

Russia does a lot with Nasa and Space X. There was even a running joke, "if you want to be an astronaut, learn Russian."

The rocket biz has a bunch of Russians who make up Elons inner circle.

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u/kat_a_klysm Oct 06 '22

Definitely. At least now he makes it obvious.

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u/houstonyoureaproblem Oct 06 '22

He’s a Republican, so yes.

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u/zyrkseas97 Oct 06 '22

As a Republican he is expected to fall in line. They’re passing out Russian flags that say “TRUMP” on them at CPAC

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u/Gr1mwolf Oct 06 '22

To be fair, those were handed out as a prank. It’s just that the average attendee was too stupid to realize what they were waving.

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u/JimboD84 Oct 06 '22

Thats is fucking HILARIOUS and horrifying

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u/zyrkseas97 Oct 06 '22

That’s the point. When you can’t tell satire from reality, the distinction no longer matters. Republicans got those flags and waved them and smiled and took selfies and have been backing Russia and Putin. It being a prank is immaterial because it was embraced by the people it was meant to mock.

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u/SupersoftBday_party Oct 06 '22

That is fucking horrifying

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u/Electrical-Floor-996 Oct 06 '22

Yep, and people eat it up with a smile on. I used to think it Trump's fanbase was deluded, but Musk's is just as bad.

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u/CrumbsAndCarrots Oct 06 '22

He’s a right winger now. So yes.

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u/professorlust Oct 06 '22

Musk is the result of Apartheid South Africa, of course he’s pro Fascist

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u/Prestigious_Bee_4392 Oct 06 '22

Makes me seriously wonder if it's some backwards attempt to get twitter to refuse his renewed effort to buy it. Or he's just been down the right-wing pipeline straight into Putins ass

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u/mrwhat_icanthearu Oct 06 '22 All-Seeing Upvote

Elon Musk is insufferable.

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u/Hazywater Oct 06 '22

What? The guy who immediately starts calling random divers trying to save children in a flooded cave pedophiles because they told him his stupid submarine idea was insane is insufferable?

And it's a little weird that pedophilia was so close to the top of his mind

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u/throwawaygreenpaq Oct 06 '22

He did? Those guys were heroes. Nobody risks their lives to rescue kids in the water just for a chance to touch them. Elon must be projecting his own sick mind.

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u/Private_HughMan Oct 06 '22

I think his reasoning was that the diver was a British man living in Thailand. Still jumping a LOT of guns, there.

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u/throwawaygreenpaq Oct 06 '22

Oh, man. That assumption by Elon makes no sense at all. Locals can also be predators. I’m Asian and avoid stereotypes like this.

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u/Quaiche Oct 06 '22

It's projections from Musk.

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u/[deleted] Oct 06 '22

Rich coming Musk, who based on his tract record is a pedophile in training.

Let’s look at his relationship history and approx age gaps.

Justine Wilson 1 year

Tallish Riley 14years

Amber Heard 15years

Grimes 17years

Natasha Basset 22years

At this rate he’ll be dating teens in his 60s.

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u/RuairiSpain Oct 06 '22

It goes deeper if you join the dots. Elon has a kink for impregnated women. He takes after his father than has twins with his own step-daughter. Family of animals!

Source: https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/elon-musk-nick-cannon-breeding-kink-1382676/

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u/longjohnjimmie Oct 06 '22

musk accused justine wilson of emotional manipulation for crying over the death of her and elons infant son, less than two months after his passing.

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u/Chief_Chill Oct 06 '22

This is his takeaway on a white man in Thailand? Projection much. I wonder how he got this perspective..

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u/extraboredinary Oct 06 '22

Yeah, he proposed making some kind of rigid submersible to get the kids out of a flooded cave before he even looked at or understood the actual layout of the cave. Some spots were so tight that divers would have to remove their tanks to get through. Extremely difficult for even experienced divers and I think some even died trying to make the attempt.

He basically got upset because he didn't know the cave system, got called out on not knowing something, then he decided to make it personal.

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u/vendetta2115 Oct 06 '22 Silver

He wants so badly to be the hero in every possible situation. And if he can’t be the hero, then he’ll be the victim.

It’s the ultimate irony that his EV company is named Tesla, because he’s 100% an Edison. Tesla would despise Musk.

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u/pazimpanet Oct 06 '22

He wants desperately to be Tony Stark, he’s actually significantly closer to Lex Luther. The Zombieland guy version at that.

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u/Beepulons Oct 06 '22

Elon wants to be Tony Stark, but he's actually Justin Hammer

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u/Destro9799 Oct 06 '22

Lex Luther is actually a genius inventor. Elon just buys the rights to inventions made by actual engineers.

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u/drrxhouse Oct 06 '22

By “significant closer to Lex Luther”, do you mean the doorman that holds the door for Lex Luther? Because he’s nowhere close to the level of “genius” that’s given to Lex Luther in his comics, etc.

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u/Holybartender83 Oct 06 '22

This. Honestly, if we’re going by comic book movie characters, he really strikes me as more of a Justin Hammer.

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u/extraboredinary Oct 06 '22

I see this a lot in conspiracy theorists. They want to be the hero, so anyone that believes differently than them must be a villain. Why did he reject the sub? Not because a coffin with an airtank wouldn’t work, but because he has some other nefarious goal in mind.

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u/throwawaygreenpaq Oct 06 '22

Yes, exactly. A diver sacrificed his life.

To accuse these heroes who rescued the children is not only insensitive but reprehensible for someone who sits in his ivory tower and does nothing to contribute to mankind other than having his delusional grandeur projects imposed on humanity.

Thanks for shedding light on what he said!

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u/ChampionshipIll3675 Oct 06 '22

More and more I think that Russia has kompromat on him.

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u/Grogosh Oct 06 '22

You seen his last baby momma? He definitely likes them looking real young.

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u/Jaaackx Oct 06 '22

Quick, someone post the picture of Ghislaine Maxwell and Elon Musk.

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u/[deleted] Oct 06 '22 Starry
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u/ABigSoftE Oct 06 '22

His justification of "ðat's ðe only reason white guys go ðere" sounds like projection

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u/GrayEidolon Oct 06 '22

More to the point, how come suddenly all of his politics are perfectly aligned with Russian interests and the conservative apparatus?

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u/Private_HughMan Oct 06 '22

Why is the rich, anti-union guy who hates paying taxes and who refused to comply with COVID regulations and safety inspections suddenly aligned with conservatives? It's a mystery.

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u/247stonerbro Oct 06 '22

I don’t get why he can’t just shut the f up?! Go enjoy your wealth. At one point in my naive life, I actually revered this jackass

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u/ScholarOfMensis Oct 06 '22

Prime example of money doesnt make you smart

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u/IMTrick Oct 06 '22

I'd be sort of OK with dumb, but he seems to actually be going for cartoonishly evil lately.

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u/Affectionate_Elk_272 Oct 06 '22

which is exceptionally dangerous when you add the amount of money he has into the mix.

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u/pecklepuff Oct 06 '22

And is about to take over Twitter. Sigh, welp living in a somewhat stable, peaceful, prosperous country was nice while it lasted. shrug

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u/Fyrefawx Oct 06 '22

Not even cartoonishly evil. Like Bond villain evil. I’m convinced he has a lava volcano lair somewhere.

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u/DarkwingDuckHunt Oct 06 '22

More like... if an average redditor suddenly became rich, what bullshit theories would he throw at the world after 5 minutes of googling?

While people who dedicated their lives to the subject tear him a new one.

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u/FoeDoeRoe Oct 06 '22 Silver Gold Helpful Eureka!

The kind of bullshit Musk is spewing, is not what comes from 5 minutes of googling. He's literally quoting Kremlin talking points.

Random googling wouldn't give you words like "Kruschev mistake." That's Putin's words and something that's a hot button for Russian propaganda, but wouldn't show up in googling, because it's historically incorrect (Kruschev was not the most important person at the time in that decision; nor was it a mistake), and because it's really not the most relevant thing. Neither would even the issue of water for Crimea show up as the top concern.

So whatever Musk is saying, it's the direct result of Russian influence - whether directly from a paid agent, or from a useful idiot, or from Musk's own doubling down and going for the worst source.

This is exactly the kind of crap that prosperity gospel gets you: when people believe that rich == smart/informed/has to be revered. And those people then go on to get a God complex. Although, in our society, it's having a God complex and starting out rich, is sometimes what gets you even richer, because, again, we are presupposed to think that those people "know something."

It's anti-intellectualism at its worst. And culture wars at their worst, when Musk and others double down on being completely craven.

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u/_owlstoathens_ Oct 06 '22

His wealth doubled or tripled under conservative tax cuts (who also happen to be anti labor). It’s typical rich guy shit pretending to care about a political stance to enrich yourself

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u/cosmic_light_show Oct 06 '22

Beauty. If I had awards, I’d give them all to you

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u/yes_no_yes_yes_yes Oct 06 '22

On the same front, I’m genuinely, deeply concerned with the ramifications of Musk’s purchase of twitter. How long will it take for him to suppress Ukrainian voices? To promote Russian propaganda? To leverage the platform to his own political ends?

If the twitter deal closes, the negative societal impact will be massive.

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u/KaponeSpirs Oct 06 '22

Oh no, he's well aware of just how wrong he is, he went out of his way to find this map and post it, He has an agenda and pushing it, knowing full well what he's doing.

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u/DoJax Oct 06 '22

I would bet the money he is going to spend on Twitter (if I had it) that now trump has a bunch of people pulling out of Truth social marketing is why Elon is considering buying it again. Put trump back on it for more clicks and easy money (trump said he would never go back, but we know that's a lie) while pushing whatever agenda he has.

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u/Theamuse_Ourania Oct 06 '22

Well, normal, sane people knew that fact already thanks to watching trumpty making an ass of himself since the 80's.

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u/thedankening Oct 06 '22

There's a whole generation of kids who now worship Trump because they have no understanding of the guy's pathetic past. All they know is his MAGA era. Even for me, a guy in his 30s, i have no recollection of the man before i saw him on his stupid television show back in the early 2000s. There's an otherwise intelligent 16 year old in some of my community college classes right now and he's convinced Trump is some kind of secret genius. It's baffling but then again he's still a kid, can't blame him if his parents shoved this shit into his head.

Coming of age during the post Trump era has got to be horrible. Even if you're a smart kid there is a good chance you get caught up in the currents if some scum lord peddling nonsense online.

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u/Redshoe9 Oct 06 '22

I remember the golden years from 1990-2000 when everyone forgot trump existed. He would call into Howard stern to gossip but that was the extent of his fame at that time. He was a has been. I miss those years.

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u/thirdaccountmaybe Oct 06 '22

And that worked out so badly for him. You wonder why Elon would want to be anything like a man who lied, cheated, divorced and declared bankruptcy over and over but still became president.

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u/InstaGibberish Oct 06 '22

Glad you came to your senses. People really need to stop worshipping the rich and trying to live vicariously through them. We have enough problems without cults self-sabotaging the working class.

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u/Nerodon Oct 06 '22 edited Oct 06 '22

I used to believe in humanity offworld bullshit... but now I know it's just going to be a rich man's escape and resort and nothing else.

Edit: Or more likely, a place for people to buy a ticket to go to... waste 5 years attempting to build a colony in shitty conditions with no prospect of enrichment and go home 200k poorer and 5 years lost. If they come back at all.

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u/Redtwooo Oct 06 '22

"Know where we can go to pay nothing in taxes, and slavery isn't illegal yet? Mars, dude. Fuckin Mars."

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u/CraftyPerformance423 Oct 06 '22

Hello there my fellow traveler. You are correct.

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u/sarcasatirony Oct 06 '22

All he needs now is a Sharpie

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u/throwawaygreenpaq Oct 06 '22

But he ain’t the sharpest tool in the shed.

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u/Nerodon Oct 06 '22

I went through the same phase, I felt more and more betrayed and aghast at each shitty opinions he shared...

I know many people who pretend to be blind just because spaceX is kinda neat.

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u/Head-Ad4690 Oct 06 '22 edited Oct 06 '22

I think SpaceX is neat, but Elon is a dick and he needs to stop thinking he has a worthwhile opinion on any random crap.

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u/Comment90 Oct 06 '22

Tesla was also neat, with all that tech making it suddenly possible for basically any car from sedans to suv's and trucks to have 1000hp and do 0-60 in ~3 seconds on electric power.

Still think Elon is a cunt.

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u/Squidworth89 Oct 06 '22

Musk could drop dead tomorrow and space x would continue on fine.

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u/Mazzaroppi Oct 06 '22

Quite possibly much better, I'd say

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u/Redshoe9 Oct 06 '22

Space X is a success because of Gwynne Shotwell, in spite of Elon.

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u/PM_ME_CUTE_FEMBOYS Oct 06 '22

because he's spent the past 16 years having a ravenous cult of idiots aggressively suck his dick over every single comment he made.

and that cult is shrinking as they realize hes a fucking piece of shit scam artist and a lying bastard.

So every time he gets challenged on something, he doubles down..then triples down, insisting he is right no matter how wrong he is. Insisting he is a genius on the subject, regardless of how fucking ignorant and stupid he is.

.. and I just realized, that unless I become more specific, there are two people this post could be referring too. So.. you know, I'm specifically talking about Musk.. this time.

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u/Gurianthe Oct 06 '22 edited Oct 06 '22

if i had so much money no one would see or hear from me ever again.

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u/interpretivepants Oct 06 '22

Given the potential this man has to do good in the world there’s an argument to be made he is objectively one of the very worst people living. We’ve got him for decades to come and he’ll only get worse.

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u/hopbel Oct 06 '22

objectively one of the very worst people living

Very stiff competition for this honor among billionaires

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u/Kydarellas Oct 06 '22

Because the only reason he has wealth in the first place is so his fragile ego and childlike need for attention can be constantly entertained. He's just a spoiled manchild used to the rules not applying to him

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u/Prometheus2012 Oct 06 '22

No way he's being funded by russia to tweet these things!

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u/Soranos_71 Oct 06 '22

For someone that likes to repeatedly tell the world how many hours he works, he sure likes to spend a lot of time tweeting his opinions on anything and everything.

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u/Rogahar Oct 06 '22

Egotistical narcissism. He can't stand the idea that people might not be talking about him, and lives for the adulation and praise he gets from his infatuated fanboys every time he so much as glances at the 'Send Tweet' button.

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u/pussycatlolz Oct 06 '22

Narcissists will shape reality, including facts about the past, to meet their mental desires, one of which is never EVER being wrong.

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u/Rubberbabybuggybum Oct 06 '22

Trump sharpied the map of a hurricane path instead of simply admit he made a mistake.

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u/texasproof Oct 06 '22

nO BrO He’s a gEnIuS AnD ThE DuMb LiBS CaN’T StAnD HoW BRiLliAnT HE iS

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u/cougrrr Oct 06 '22

The fact that a ton of people bought into his "what if we built subways, but worse" as the end result of hyperloop blows my mind.

"Adding lanes over and over isn't how you solve traffic" - adds an exclusive lane, under ground, so it's regular traffic but worse and less effective than a normal road

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u/flirtmcdudes Oct 06 '22

he fits right in with republicans though. Says contrarian shit just to sound like hes different and a trailblazer.

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u/zyrkseas97 Oct 06 '22

Imagine explaining to Republicans 30 years ago that Republicans now are in the pocket of Russia. They’d be fuming.

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u/craig1f Oct 06 '22

This is seriously some 1984 "Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia" shit. It's insane. I can't believe I used to vote Republican.

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u/zyrkseas97 Oct 06 '22

The number of people who talk about that book without understanding it hurts my brain.

“1984 = Government bad” is a surprisingly common take

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u/craig1f Oct 06 '22

I was still a conservative when I read it. Convinced that it described liberals. This was back when I thought that only conservatives were capable of meeting the threat of Islamic terrorism.

I was naive enough to buy the line that democrats were the naive ones, and Republicans were the adults. Democrats and their pesky data and statistics and "facts" getting in the way of what we all KNOW to be true.

ugh.

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u/infinity234 Oct 06 '22 edited Oct 06 '22 Rocket Like

Bruh, dude literally knows nothing of the situation. 2012 is before the Maidan revolution when this entire conflict originally started. 2012 Ukraine was still under a pro-Russian puppet president until the mass protests and eventually the legislature kicked out the pro-Russian president thus leading to the conflicts that eventually lead to the separatist groups and the annexation of Crimea. And even then you have to consider the knock down effects on that from the 2002-2004 Orange Revolution when the pro-russian government first started dismantling to de-rigging elections in favor of the pro-russian government

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u/pleasetrimyourpubes Oct 06 '22

He literally had to choose peak Russia meddling period in Ukraines democracy. Any other time the picture doesn't look this way. Russia fucked Ukraine so hard iver gas and installing puppets to the tune of billions of dollars that the Ukranians would not have it anymore.

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u/Fifth_Down Oct 06 '22

Yep. Those “Pro Russia” regions never wanted to join Russia, they just wanted language rights for Russian speakers and open borders to visit their family members in Russia.

Then Russia invaded in 2014 and set up a totalitarian puppet regime in Donbas and 8 years of small scale war. All this accomplished was take a civilian population that had some sympathy for friendly relations with Moscow to erode their support.

By 2022 Putin’s grasp in the region was dying, so he resorted to a large scale military invasion as his final act of desperation. Only, in order to get to the Ukrainian speaking areas he first had to march an Army through all the Russian-speaking regions of Ukraine. Those regions don’t care what language you speak, they saw an invading army and reacted in kind.

The irony of the situation is that it was the Russian-speaking regions of Ukraine who did the most to throw the Russians out, and the ones who paid the heaviest price in this war. They would be the last of anyone to offer sympathy for Russian talking points.

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u/TovarishchFlashback Oct 06 '22

Fun fact: Initially Yanukovich won the election because he promised to bring Ukraine closer to the EU, while maintaining close ties to Russia. So not all of those who voted for him were actually 100% pro-russian. He was a populist who tried to satisfy an audience as wide as possible

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u/Hog_jr Oct 06 '22

But the southern bits really liked Mexico ten years ago…

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u/SXTY82 Oct 06 '22

What the hell Elon? Did someone not pay a starlink subscription?

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u/LargeSackOfNuts Oct 06 '22 Eureka!

Why is Elon even trying to debate another country’s sovereignty

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u/[deleted] Oct 06 '22

Because his ego is too large to fit in his own competence zone, so it has to keep leaking out into every hot topic he knows nothing about. That's the thing with famous narcissists, they can't just mind their own business - they want to push their ignorant views on each and everyone and keep themselves at the centre of attention.

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u/AllMyBeets Oct 06 '22

He had to go back 10 years to find a map. Twitter is going to implode under Elon.

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u/coolfielder1 Oct 06 '22

Why is Musk suddenly pro Russia?

Or has he always been? Why?

What does he get out of it???

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u/Lacasax Oct 06 '22

I think he just can't handle being corrected by anyone.

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u/C3POsCAT Oct 06 '22

Vapid contrarianism

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u/[deleted] Oct 06 '22 edited Oct 06 '22

Elon Muscovite

Edit: someone that’s good at stuff should hashtag this

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u/ebac7 Oct 06 '22

Elon Muskow

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u/lorl3ss Oct 06 '22

Is Musk a Russian asset at this point? He has almost the same brand of arrogant stupidity that Trump has. It's eerie.

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u/I_am_the_Jukebox Oct 06 '22 Silver

Early "Communist" USSR had a phrase - "Useful Idiot."

Musk is one of those.

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u/Aweirdposter101 Oct 06 '22 Wholesome

I would award you, but I don't have anything to give. That being said, where did you first read up on that phrase? The linguistics podcast listener inside me's interested.

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u/RamenJunkie Oct 06 '22 Heartwarming

Don't worry, I got you. We can call it a Socialist Silver.

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u/curious_dead Oct 06 '22

He saw being an asshole and licking Putin's butt allowed Trump to have all the attention so he wants a his part too. Good thing he cannot run for president.

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u/houstonyoureaproblem Oct 06 '22

He can try.

Then we’ll see if someone calls him out like Trump did to Ted Cruz.

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u/cranktheguy Oct 06 '22

Have you ever noticed that Elon's smiles are upside down?

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u/Delay_Defiant Oct 06 '22

Doubtful, it's more he's a spoiled overrated rich dude like Trump. The fact that he actually is rich unlike trump is irrelevant. He's nowhere near as smart as he thinks he is.

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u/SuperGenius98K Oct 06 '22

Trump is a Russian asset.

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u/Lokismoke Oct 06 '22

Elon Musk announcing he was a Republican on the same day sexual harassment claims from a fight attendant came out is very on point for American politics.

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u/hnguk Oct 06 '22

Interesting that Elon chose 2012 given the fact that it's A) 10 years ago and B) 2 years before the Russo-Ukrainian War. Almost like opinions change over time

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u/etphonecomb Oct 06 '22

Also the ousting of pro-Russian president Viktor Yanukovych. It seems like they were pretty fed up with Russia.

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u/theoldgreenwalrus Oct 06 '22

No surprise that Elon is a Putin shill. Elon supports republicans now and that is the party of Putin. Elon and his simps are pathetic.

Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦

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u/wiiya Oct 06 '22

When most people have a midlife crisis, they buy a new car or start a new hobby. Elon lives in rich guy world where you go play Wario on SNL, buy a social media company, declare the left too radical and then root on Russia.

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u/TheDustOfMen Oct 06 '22

It's always the same kind of egomaniacal assholes who spout this sort of bullshit. We got a politician here in the Netherlands who's been parroting Russian propaganda as well. Same kind of person except he's not a billionaire.

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u/Drunkdoggie Oct 06 '22 edited Oct 06 '22

Dude wants to be Trump so bad it's not even funny.

If Trump light TM was a thing this guy would be the brand mascot.

Basically every move he makes is a slightly delayed, watered down, play-by-play from the MAGA guidebook -sprinkled with key notes from 'how to become a dictator for dummies'-

And of course both he and some of his party members are involved in multiple (integrity) scandals such as;

  • Refusing to declare the ancillary income he recieves. (Basically his version of Trumps Tax return scandal)
  • Facilitating a youth party whatsapp group riddled with racist, fascist and all around terrible messages.
  • Making derogatory comments about coloured people, women, lgbtq+ people, and Jewish people.
  • Threatening people on social media and inciting his followers against his opposition and certain people who argue with him on social media.
  • Promoting quack medicine and therapy
  • Spouting, and contributing to, baseless conspiracy theories
  • Opposing climate change
  • Starting his own party branded school that teaches far-right extremist propaganda and conspiracy theories.
  • Being investigated for possible embezzlement and fraud
  • Supporting Russia and spreading anti-ukraine propaganda

Lately it got so bad that basically all but a few politicians left the chamber when he started spouting nonsense about his baseless theory that a politician from another party was a Marxist and a Russian spy.

Dude is a straight up delusional moron who shouldn't be a politician, let alone someone in a position of authority.

Luckily his base is relatively small and slowly declining after he went full MAGA levels of crazy lately.

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u/Glittering-Action757 Oct 06 '22

guaranteed he'll run for president one day when his Metal Mickey venture fails

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u/Public_Hour5698 Oct 06 '22

Buys a company to suck up to Trump

It doesn't work

Tries to back out

Cries

Buys it anyway

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u/itssimsallthewaydown Oct 06 '22

Elon is uninteresting, uninspiring and is a massive bore. He steals good ideas. His own ideas are stupid and shallow.

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u/LiveHotNudes Oct 06 '22

All the characteristics of an American success story

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u/Chahklet Oct 06 '22

Thanks for posting. I really had no opinion on Elon until he tried to stick his nose in Ukraine and Russia. A rich person spreading propaganda can hurt so many people.

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u/ArielRR Oct 06 '22

He is a union buster, piece of shit, wastes the government's money on garbage projects that would never work, build cars with garbage quality control, and started his original projects with money from his father's emerald mine worked by children. This is the thing that makes you not like musk?

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u/slinkysmooth Oct 06 '22

Elon is so unhinged. Why do people keep buying Teslas knowing the money will go to hell ass backwards Republicans. Not even moderate Republicans. QAnon republicans. Just look at who Elon voted for in the Texas special election. Tesla is the new MAGA hat…

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u/Broad_Respond_2205 Oct 06 '22

Am I missing something or even at this old map the pro Russia is a minorty?

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u/Kiyranti91 Oct 06 '22

I think he's trying to justify the annexation of the 4 eastern regions, which in his map are majority pro-Russia. Not Ukraine as a whole.

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u/Beans4urAss Oct 06 '22

I'm quite ignorant here, but what are we discussing? Can territories/regions/states of one country simply vote to become independent or a territory/region/state of another? Bc to me that sounds a lot like secession leading to a civil war.

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u/Morfolk Oct 06 '22

Even the pro-Russia party was for 'sovereign Ukraine working closer with Russia' and not 'becoming part of Russia' as Musk's idiotic tweet suggests.

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u/satan62 Oct 06 '22

He's replying to Lady G, so that kind says something else about him...

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u/ChoiceFabulous Oct 06 '22

Elon Musk is the same kind of guy that would step off the boat as an immigrant, turn around and demand all these foreigners go back to their country.

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u/James_Morier Oct 06 '22

The more I see Elon Musk, the more he confirms that he is just a rich boy who inherited a lot of money and happened to invest in the right smart people. His wealth came from diamond mines, not his “entrepreneurial prowess.” Tired of people labeling these idiots as “self made” billionaires who just stood on the backs of the poorest people to get where they are. They are not self made, they were propped up by old money and exploitative practices.

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u/GeneralIronsides2 Oct 06 '22

He’s such a stooge it’s actually hilarious, too bad twitters full of his cringe larp fanboys

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u/CT_Jester Oct 06 '22

Musk needs to focus on making cars that won't inevitably be recalled.

Teslas are garbage.

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u/SuperGenius98K Oct 06 '22

I hope the FBI is monitoring the Muskrat.

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u/HeathenPrimate Oct 06 '22

At what point does "the people that live here want to live in Russia" mean that the ground they live on becomes part of Russia, and not simply those people should immigrate to Russia?

If you want to live somewhere, you move there. Your current home doesn't become part of that country. Ffs that's not how sovereignty works.

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u/p00pd1cks Oct 06 '22

this dude needs to get in a plane crash or something. he isnt worth having around anymore.

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u/hoagly80 Oct 06 '22

Just another ultra rich cunt that doesn't give AF about anyone else.

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u/Temporary-Eye-6664 Oct 06 '22

Maybe, using your logic, you should let your employees vote on unionization. Or should I to stay in my lane.

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u/EvoFanatic Oct 06 '22

Can someone put Elon out of our misery. God damn that dude needs to go away.

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u/oldbastardbob Oct 06 '22

To be fair, 10 years ago may be the last time Musk had a coherent thought.