r/WhitePeopleTwitter Oct 07 '22

“It could have been worse.”

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u/-send_me_bitcoin- Oct 07 '22 Table Slap

But at least Texans are getting a lot less.

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u/ArchMart Oct 07 '22 Helpful hehehehe I'm Deceased

Everything is bigger in Texas. Even the amount of less you get.

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u/DCM3059 Oct 07 '22

I'm stealing this one. I have 2 dear friends who live near Houston

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u/Crime-Stoppers Oct 07 '22

Nothing quite like waking up to the smell of folk punk bands in the morning

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u/concretebootstraps Oct 07 '22

I'm stealing this one. I have 2 dear possum friends who live near Houston

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u/mermiss1 Oct 07 '22

Thy proably get less roadkill. Less income = less driving= less roadkill. This is a fact.

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u/creepyusernames Oct 07 '22

Holy fuck I laughed so hard at this I nearly wet myself!

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '22 edited Oct 07 '22

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u/inorite234 Oct 07 '22

That's.....not wrong.

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u/Knightowle Oct 07 '22

It is believed to have more area covered by concrete than any other city in the world, adjusted for size.

Or, rather, to clarify - Possibly just the total acreage of concrete surfaces not % covered. Those flying highways probably count multiple times.

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u/Jaded-Combination-20 Oct 07 '22

So. Years ago we took a bus from Riga to Vilnius. There was this really annoying man on the bus who gave a running commentary of everything, the entire trip (around 4 hours.) And I mean everything. Sample dialogue: "Oh look, there's a car! Oh look, there's a bus! Oh look, there's a bridge!" The entire time. Not to us directly, but loud enough that the entire bus could hear. He also informed all of us that he'd never been to Vilnius before. As we were driving through the outer suburbs, he said, "You know, Vilnius is a lot like Houston."

To this day, whenever anyone mentions Houston, I always think of that. Houston - aka West Vilnius.

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u/Otroroboto Oct 07 '22 edited Oct 07 '22

This is simultaneously the nicest thing anyone has ever said about Houston and the worst thing that has ever been said about Vilnius.

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u/ThaMainSqeezeSub Oct 07 '22

Hay!!! Houston is a MAGICAL place! It's the Las Vegas of TX! Last time I traveled to work there it ate my marriage. Now I wanna go back to see if it'll eat if it'll eat my ass this time!!!

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u/Graywulff Oct 07 '22

I heard Cruz is the rimmer.

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u/Grouchy-Estimate-756 Oct 07 '22

The food there is incredible, though.

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u/Batavijf Oct 07 '22

That's real freedom. And it'll show those pesky socialist how it's done.

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u/kreiggers Oct 07 '22

Small government doesn’t come cheap

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u/Top-Rhubarb4985 Oct 07 '22

What did come cheap was the power grid tho

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u/A_wild_so-and-so Oct 07 '22

Well the grid was cheap, but after all the overhead (read: grift) it ended up being pretty expensive.

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u/StageRepulsive8697 Oct 07 '22

It seems like it'll need to get pretty bad before they ever blame Abbot or even the system though. They'll just continuing blaming "wind mills"

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u/Worshaw Oct 07 '22

Yeah Abbott keeps blaming all that, but data now shows those willing to look at it, multiple gas plants failed and caused more issues then wind or solar. He just doesn’t want his friends to lose money.

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u/Incredulous_Toad Oct 07 '22

Spit and duct tape will fix that right up!

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u/catchmesleeping Oct 07 '22

Sir I take offense to your comment. We use duct tape and WD-40!

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u/Worshaw Oct 07 '22

What do you mean? They didn’t fix it. Just hung the wires back up and called it a day.

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u/kaenneth Oct 07 '22

Executing innocent people isn't cheap either.

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u/SimpleVegetable5715 Oct 07 '22

Texas. Expect more. Get Less. 😒

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u/Arinupa Oct 07 '22

Give more lifeboats and jackets to the first class passengers. I'm sure they will pass it down to the bottom deck.

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u/p00pd1cks Oct 07 '22

Come on man! I just moved here for a job.

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u/provisionings Oct 07 '22

I would NEVER move to Texas for a job… even if it was for better pay. But also, I’m a woman.

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u/maleia Oct 07 '22

I'm a trans woman, and I was willing to go to Louisiana in 2020. Texas? I grew up there, ffs! I won't be stepping foot in that state for a loooong time.

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u/provisionings Oct 07 '22 edited Oct 07 '22

Autocracies and LGTBQ usually do not coexist peacefully and I am really worried for you guys. . We literally have folks who vote against all of their own interests just over LGTBQ issues alone. The community has literally become a scapegoat for red state propaganda. It doesn’t even make sense for straight folks to devote so much time over something that has nothing to do with their own lifestyle… right? When that article came out regarding the demographics of porn… it really connected the dots when we found out about a certain area’s love for a specific porn genre. It made a lot of sense to why it’s more personal for these people. It’s all about the inner inner turmoil they experience regarding what constitutes a straight person and whether they belong in that category. You can’t really categorize sexuality, it’s not that particular!

I hope to god that LGTBQ advocacy groups collect and devote resources for an underground rainbow railroad. If a blue state is going to take on all the women traveling for reproductive care.. then we should be able to help endangered LGTBQ escape permanently.

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u/ergo-ogre Oct 07 '22

Hello neighbor! Also, I don’t see it getting better here. When AG Landry announced he’s running for gov, I felt a disturbance in the force.

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u/P1mongoose Oct 07 '22

Can confirm, yet our infrastructures are in shambles

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u/DanYHKim Oct 07 '22

California's maternal mortality rate is equivalent to European countries, by the way. Texas has decided not to publish its own rate until 2025.

"While US maternal mortality has worsened in the 2010s, by 2013 California’s rate had been cut in half to a three-year average of 7.0 maternal deaths per 100,000 live births. The state’s rate had become comparable to the average rate in Western Europe (7.2 per 100,000)"

https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/10.1377/hlthaff.2018.0463

It's even lower now!

"California has the lowest maternal mortality rate of 4.0 deaths per 100,000 births. From 2006 to 2013, California’s maternal mortality rate declined by 55%, from 16.9 to 7.3 and continued to decline thereafter. California is leading the way in efforts to reduce the number of maternal mortalities thanks to the formation of the California Maternal Quality Care Collaborative in 2006."

Here are the 10 states with the highest maternal mortality:

Louisiana - 58.1 per 100k
Georgia - 48.4 per 100k
Indiana - 43.6 per 100k
New Jersey - 38.1 per 100k
Arkansas - 37.5 per 100k
Alabama - 36.4 per 100k
Missouri - 34.6 per 100k
Texas - 34.5 per 100k
South Carolina - 27.9 per 100k
Arizona - 27.3 per 100k

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/maternal-mortality-rate-by-state

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u/HalensVan Oct 07 '22

What is the bible belt...

No wait I got it, what is lowest educated states...

Maybe its the poorest states

States with the worst roads

No wait, its states with the highest incarceration per capita

Oh I see now, its death rate per capita

It looks like its actually states with the highest maternal mortality per capita...weird...

Basically the same lol

Im shocked Mississippi isnt top 10...

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u/coyote10001 Oct 07 '22

New Jersey is a very weird outlier here. Wonder what’s going on there.

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u/Dulcinea18 Oct 07 '22

NJ still has Planned Parenthood access. When good ‘ol Raphael Cruz was reciting Green Eggs and Ham in Congress, he was getting rid of funding for Planned Parenthood which not only does abortions, but is a stopgap for poor women who can’t afford prenatal care. Without PP access in places like North Texas(land of Sandra Bland) poor black women who are pregnant and without insurance aren’t making it out of hospitals alive. Prenatal Care is where you catch complications that can become deadly during childbirth.

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u/AbsolutShite Oct 07 '22

Horrifically, it's not the poor part that puts black women in danger.

College educated black (and indigenous) women in America face much higher mortality rates. In my opinion, it's one of the clearest examples that racism is fully systemic in the US. If your race is a bigger factor in your death than your education, you're fucked from the jump.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7951143/ (only skimmed this so I'm not sure if mentions Indigenous women but there was definitely graphs on /r/DataIsBeautiful or something like a year ago to show similar levels)

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u/RuralJuror1234 Oct 07 '22

Even Serena Williams, one of the world's most famous athletes, almost died after giving birth because her medical team did not believe her: https://www.vox.com/identities/2018/1/11/16879984/serena-williams-childbirth-scare-black-women

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u/Equivalent_Emotion64 Oct 07 '22

And she’s MARRIED TO THE GUY WHO CO FOUNED THIS VERY SITE when not even THAT can protect you from systemic BS yeah you’re fucked.

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u/judyvi Oct 07 '22

Women in general have a hard time being believed or treated well. I’ve had horrid experiences at the gyno, didn’t go for a decade and then it happened again at a different office. And before we go after straight white men, the first was a gay man and the second was a woman. Now add race to it. I watched a Ted talk on black Americans and the medical profession and it was horrific. Every time I hear of a famous black person dying too young from a heart attack I just know it’s the systemic racism in the medical profession. They’re rich. Not like they can’t afford care. It’s just so frustrating to think these are supposed to be educated people who should know and do better

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u/HalensVan Oct 07 '22

Right? Seems its also on a few of those too. Ive been to most southern states but I have no clue about NJ.

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u/Tsarinax Oct 07 '22

NJ is another very split state. The regions close to NYC and Philly are more blue while the regions down south get…. A tad Mississippian.

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u/spagooter Oct 07 '22

South Jerz is definitely Trump Country.

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u/SimpleVegetable5715 Oct 07 '22

Texas doesn't put air conditioning in state prisons, btw. People die of heat stroke. Even the correctional officers get sick, despite, they're allowed to leave unlike the prisoners. I couldn't imagine being in one of those hell holes with the 100°+F weather we've been having all summer. Of course, they're really good at covering up heat stroke deaths, and blaming it on other causes.

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u/goodvibes_onethree Oct 07 '22

As someone from AZ, we are working on it. Slowly due to how many fuckwads reside here but there are a lot of us chugging along and trying to make change happen. Sad and discouraged to see us in the top 10. But honestly not surprised :(

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u/MizStazya Oct 07 '22

Illinois has been trying to mimic their program for a decade now.

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u/Matthias_Clan Oct 07 '22

Ah yes, my state, South Carolina always making the top 10 of the worst things.

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u/evil-rick Oct 07 '22

Is this why they’re panicking? They’re losing their voter base FAST. And largely due to their own choices.

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u/Anonymoushipopotomus Oct 07 '22 edited Oct 08 '22

As an nj resident it’s absolutely horrifying we are that high up on the list with those states that do not give a fuck about their people, education or infrastructure

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u/DataIsMyCopilot Oct 07 '22

Ive been laughing at the people crying about CA taxes and then saying they're gonna move to TX.

It's like people complaining about socialism "threatening" to move to Canada.

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u/SpokenSilenced Oct 07 '22

If anything that just proves people don't know how taxes and everything works.

It's just ignorance on parade. The unfortunate part is... They don't care to learn.

Why learn when you have "faith"?

The US is flirting with Christian autocracy way too much. It's not fucking cool.

E: words

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u/JunketGuy Oct 07 '22

Imagine paying more taxes than one of the most expensive states in the country/world and still having a shit power grid system

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u/DataIsMyCopilot Oct 07 '22

dOnT cAliFoRniA mY tExAs

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u/JScarlott Oct 07 '22

Texas not Taxes!!! Where’s my gun

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u/LieutenantStar2 Oct 07 '22

Ugh people say that with a straight face here. It’s surprising I haven’t been charged with assault.

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u/thatdinklife Oct 07 '22

My brother complains about Californians moving to Texas. He moved there two years ago…from California lol. He says he’s different because he assimilated to Texas culture 🙃

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u/MrA1Sauce Oct 07 '22

This reminds me of the South Park episode where they call themselves native Hawaiians.

This thing.

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u/Quick_Team Oct 07 '22

How very Republican of him. "No no, see, my story is different."

Reminds me of the religious Republican women that go get abortions while also condemning the staff at the clinic and come up with reasons why their situation is justified but everyone else's isnt

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u/GreatBigBagOfNope Oct 07 '22

"the only moral migration is my migration"

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u/tehramz Oct 07 '22

As a native Texan, you can let him know that he’s mistaken and he can fuck back off to where he came from. Non-native Texans are a big reason why we can’t have nice things. I’m general, the people moving here aren’t the best and brightest their home state had to offer. Beto would have been elected as a senator if it was just native Texans voting.

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u/Aporkalypse_Sow Oct 07 '22

assimilated to Texas culture

Headkick from a horse?

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u/ndngroomer Oct 07 '22

Yes. In fact today Texas successfully took way LGBTQ rights away and now employers can enforce disgusting policies against them. The Texas AG says he's going after POC civil rights next. Our democracy is literally on the line this election. I'm not kidding.

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u/OrphicDionysus Oct 07 '22

What the hell is going on with his indictments by the way. Its been, what, almost 4 years now since those staffers left to whistleblow about him taking bribes and brought a shitload of evidence with them, and another 3 if you want to take it back to the SEC violations he was also indicted for. Is it stalled in the TBI or something?

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u/MicrowaveEye Oct 07 '22

But you can take your AK to the pig roast. /s

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u/_-WanderLost-_ Oct 07 '22

Funnily enough boar hunting season in California is year round and there is no bag limit. There are also Ak style guns that are legal in California.

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u/poki_stick Oct 07 '22

Sooooo many more employee/tenant/social services/welfare benefits in California too. We at least get something for as much as we pay in taxes

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u/kantoblight Oct 07 '22

Shit. I lost my job and health insurance. Was put on medi-cal. Came down with a super serious health issue that put me in the hospital for 7 weeks. After I was released I got the bill.

I owed $0.00.

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u/wilmyersmvp Oct 07 '22

As a California resident, I’m glad you’re not financially ruined for life and I hope you’re feeling better these days! I’m glad to pay taxes that help in situations like this.

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u/sarcastic_meowbs Oct 07 '22 edited Oct 07 '22 All-Seeing Upvote

Oh but we get wire bars put up between us and Mexico and paid for with money Abbot " magically" ( read unethicaly) took from the federal government in the form of COVID relief.

If your illegal you get a free ride to any of the democratically lead states.

Working on project maybe do a - Utube video - "How to Look like an illegal for FREE ride OUT of Texas to any democratically run state" First will need to find some illegals to teach white people how to look like illegals.....

Don't forget religious fanatics don't have to worry about thier incest victims getting an abortion. Nope we get a two - Fer two deaths for the price of one..... all Abbott had to do was pass lass that will kill women AND thier unborn babies because the Texas God is great. Sadistic as hell but still great and loving.

If there are too many disgruntled men left womanless we have our second ammendment rights.....gee what could possible go wrong with these plans.

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u/DMShinja Oct 07 '22

Up voted because that was a great rant!

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u/poki_stick Oct 07 '22

Living up to your name! But weren't some if not all of those immigrants they shipped to other states not 'illegals' but refugees here legally.

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u/R0GUEL0KI Oct 07 '22

Was gonna comment the same thing. If they were illegal they would have just deported them. The people they sent to other states were all in the United States legally.

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u/SmileGraceSmile Oct 07 '22

Texas was formed by "illegals". Americans agreed to settle land through the Mexican government, refused to become citizens or give the land back. If the fed didn't come save them, they'd still be part of Mexico.

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u/well_hung_over Oct 07 '22

My kid gets free breakfast and lunch at school. Oh nooooo, damn taxes!

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u/DeathByOrgasm Oct 07 '22

Gotta source? I believe you! I just want to learn more!

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u/poki_stick Oct 07 '22

https://siepr.stanford.edu/publications/policy-brief/tale-two-states-contrasting-economic-policy-california-and-texas

I like our employee protections and first five coverage for all children. The maternal mortality rate of Texas is terrifying

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u/JunketGuy Oct 07 '22

My condolences sir

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u/liltwinstar2 Oct 07 '22

Y’all are supposed to go to Cancun when that happens, duh.

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u/PM_ME_NCIS_QUOTES Oct 07 '22

Go vote! Especially in local elections

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u/badgersprite Oct 07 '22

I have a friend who wants to move to Texas just so he can open carry

Conservative brain rot in action

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u/iheartxanadu Oct 07 '22

I worry about people for whom open carry is a deciding factor in anything. That's just ... when you have a hammer, every problem is a nail.

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u/TheHunterZolomon Oct 07 '22

That’s exactly it. It attracts instability, the inability to use intellectual means to resolve conflict. It’s indicative of a primal, permanently regressed faculty of force to achieve solution. No emotional or psychological nuance, only the view that force is what achieves success. It’s scary. No doubt this person will encounter others like themselves and the end result is always mutual destruction.

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u/kaenneth Oct 07 '22

I just enjoy living where I don't feel the need to carry at all.

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u/eMmDeeKay_Says Oct 07 '22

The idea was property was cheaper, but people can't seem to grasp the concept that Property value is tied to population size.

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u/SickOfNormal Oct 07 '22

Hey dude! I think its great! Get those complainers out of CA and go to Texas where houses now cost about the same as CA --- and, well... they're in Texas.

Every pissed off MAGA person, I'm like - dude! you gotta move from this shithole --- I hear Tennessee, Florida, Texas, Arkansas is MAGA heaven! Lets go, it's gonna be great ---- while I secretly wait for them to put their houses on the market so I can snag one!

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u/kaenneth Oct 07 '22

Dumb people moving from CA to TX raise the average IQ of both states.

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u/Paw5624 Oct 07 '22

2 years ago I had an offer for a promotion with my company but the role would have required me moving from PA to TX. I didn’t really want to make the move but I ran the numbers just to see if it was a good financial move anyway. The area in Texas I would have been in was pretty high cost of living, and the taxes and property was higher than where I currently live. So I would have had to move away from family to essentially have the same buying power even though it came with a decent bump in salary… no thanks.

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u/Crafty-Iron-4132 Oct 07 '22

As someone that’s moved recently the worst part is actually hearing all the conservatives complain about it

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u/iamnotnewhereami Oct 07 '22 edited Oct 07 '22

Trade galveston for big sur? ..anyone

?there literally isnt one beach in california as bad as galveston. Including tijuana sloughs.

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u/Fallen_Muppet Oct 07 '22

You mean to tell me you don't like the smell of crude oil, seaweed and dead bodies rolling in? Lol

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u/SteelingLight Oct 07 '22

How good is Cali honestly? Currently living in the Mormon hell hole and thinking about jumping ship for either you guys or New York.

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u/Gunther_Alsor Oct 07 '22

It's the 50th worst state in the Union.

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u/SteelingLight Oct 07 '22

Aight, I'm sold.

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u/Persianator Oct 07 '22

Im born and raised Californian but Ive lived in Tennessee, PA, and NYC. I’m definitely biased so take my opinion with a grain of salt.

There has been no place ive lived that has ever compared to California. The food is amazing, the people are nonjudgmental and the weather is all around fantastic. It’s amazingly diverse as well. We have every climate you can think of within a 3 hour drive.

Want to go wine tasting in some of the premier wineries in the world? Off to Sonoma county and napa. Hey its winter and I want to go sledding, snowboarding or skiing, off to lake Tahoe or big bear. I want to chill by a nice beach well you have 100s to choose from.

A word to the wise, stay away from the central valley, as that’s where depression and bordeom were invented.

We do have our issues, high cost of living, traffic if you live in LA or the bay area. Homelessness is worse than it was 10 years ago. Fire season can be dangerous if you live in northern California but the state and federal government investing in active forest management has helped the last few years. I think of this as a place that actively invests in its citizens and wants people to thrive.

If that sounds good to you i recommend coming out for a visit and see what you think yourself.

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u/TheMikeGolf Oct 07 '22

Pretty sure the people leaving Cali to go to tx are from the inland empire and the Central Valley. You know… red counties.

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u/SmileGraceSmile Oct 07 '22

I live in a republican county in Ca (ew) and I see a lot if Texas license plates around here.

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u/Disastrous_Emu_3628 Oct 07 '22

It’s the same in Colorado lol but they don’t know how to drive in the snow.

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u/bluntsmoken420 Oct 07 '22

born in Texas, grew up there for 9 years

moved back as a 23 year old and only lasted 7 months, man I fucking hate Texas and Texans

will move to California and try it out for a year, have a feeling I may enjoy it more, especially since I'm a degenerate progressive and prefer liberal hell holes to states so conservative that they try to ban CBD

also fuck the Bible belt

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u/KeplerOrion Oct 07 '22

Limited Government translates to Limited Effort with criminal politicians

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u/No_Construction_7518 Oct 07 '22

Curious Canadian here, where does the tax money go? Does the government even try to explain where it's spent?

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u/silentsereniti Oct 07 '22

On stupid things that don’t help anyone. Source:

Gov. Greg Abbott’s migrant busing program costs Texas $12 million https://www.texastribune.org/2022/08/31/texas-12-million-migrant-busing-program/

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u/turbotank183 Oct 07 '22

Hey don't be so clueless bro...it helps rich people, the people that need it the most

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u/EPLWA_Is_Relevant Oct 07 '22

Endless highway expansions

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u/Shaggyninja Oct 07 '22

Knowing Texas. Probably highways

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u/cultured_banana_slug Oct 07 '22

Well, at least you don't have any major natural disasters hitting on a yearly basis that might cause you all to need to GTFO with short notice right?

Owaitright.

(hugs) Sorry. You can always burn a Trump flag to stay warm. There are tons of them all over.

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u/Luka_Dunks_on_Bums Oct 07 '22

Don’t worry, we will get more express lanes to fix it

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u/jUGHEADS_BURGDER Oct 07 '22

Don't worry, will build you a new toll road.

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u/raggusfamilius Oct 07 '22

And winter is coming.

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u/irishgator2 Oct 07 '22

So, what exactly, are your taxes paying for??

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u/SmartGirl62 Oct 07 '22

To own the libs and line their pockets.

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u/sunward_Lily Oct 07 '22

that's the problem with libertarianism. everyone wants their trash picked up but how many of them are out there with a bag and some gloves?

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u/cdiddy19 Oct 07 '22

Paying more and getting a lot less ...

That's like our healthcare too. The US pays more and gets less.

The US is the Texas of first world, developed countries

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u/Mister_Lich Oct 07 '22

Well, from a tax perspective, we actually are one of the least taxed countries. Our effective average tax rate is like a full 10% lower than the OECD average lol. But, that comes at the cost of a really fucked up university lending system, and no public healthcare to speak of.

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u/nighthawk_something Oct 07 '22

The worst part is that the US pays more in tax dollars per person to sustain the healthcare system than Canada.

So the US has the money to support universal healthcare.

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u/LinearJunebug Oct 07 '22

From a health care perspective, you are by far the most taxed country. Lack of universal public health care isn’t buying you lower taxes.

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u/nighthawk_something Oct 07 '22

Yup, they pay more taxes for the privilege of then paying for the service.

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u/shmergenhergen Oct 07 '22

As an Australian who visits California pretty often: yup.

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u/NiteShdw Oct 07 '22 edited Oct 07 '22 All-Seeing Upvote

I found this article:

https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/texans-pay-more-taxes-than-californians-17400644.php

TLDR; In California, the rich pay their fair share.

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u/cesarmac Oct 07 '22

I wouldn't just say the rich, it's more like "those who are more well off pay their fair share".

Which is fine,that's the goal we should all reach towards. If you are able to generate success in this country then you should contribute a bit more to help those below you.

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u/LittleHornetPhil Oct 07 '22

Basically everyone in Texas pays higher taxes than in California except the very rich, which is why Phil Mickelson bitches.

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u/Hank3hellbilly Oct 07 '22

also why Musk left?

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u/iknownothingelio Oct 07 '22 edited Oct 07 '22

“Help those below you” wont sway rich republicans. They will call it communism. “Pay more taxes for the welfare of customers that support and employees that work for your business” might do. Lol

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u/Goatesq Oct 07 '22

It won't though. They don't even care about next quarter's profits half the time.

What about "let those with least to spare keep the majority of the value they do produce for themselves"? I think we need to start framing economics more accurately to make headway, personally, but I won't pretend my hopes are high regardless.

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u/iknownothingelio Oct 07 '22

That’s too complicated. Maybe “pay more taxes so we can fund the military or tax the rich so we wont tax your church” or whatever MAGA sh*t they throw their money at. I like the ring of the 2nd one lol.

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u/Ecstatic-Swimming997 Oct 07 '22

That why you just tell them “blah blah blah” f them they mean nothing any more. They traded all of their morals and high speaking for 30 pieces of silver. Their words are worth nothing at all any more.

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u/AlignedBuckle36 Oct 07 '22

This is such a great concept that people struggle with, they care so much about what people deserve on an equality basis and not on an equity basis

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u/Uncynical_Diogenes Oct 07 '22

Notice that the equality they want is and equality of negative freedoms from constraints. They never advocate for equality positive freedoms, the ability to actually make meaningful choices.

Inequality means that the capacity for positive freedom is likewise unequally distributed. Anybody can become president! Yeah, technically. Now how many of them have been poor kids?

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u/Logan117 Oct 07 '22

40% of Americans don't have $400 spare dollars. If you make barely above minimum wage, then $1000 is huge to you. If you suddenly started making double that, your EXPENDABLE income would increase by probably tenfold.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/10-americans-struggle-cover-400-emergency-expense-federal/story?id=63253846

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u/FlipsMontague Oct 07 '22

No one making under $30,000 a year in California should be paying any income tax. That's the poverty line. Maybe it was $12,000 in 1991, but they need to update that to a realistic number based on inflation.

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u/East-Independence-78 Oct 07 '22

Was anyone actually able to read this article on mobile? The ads actually took up all of the screen except for literally two lines of text at a time.

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u/wormymaple Oct 07 '22

i highly recommend getting an ad blocking app. i use AdBlock Pro on iOS and don't have to endure scrolling through any of that shit anymore. 10/10

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u/LittleHornetPhil Oct 07 '22

It’s not a super recent study. Basically, every income bracket in Texas pays higher overall taxes than in California except for the very rich, who pay more in California than in Texas.

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u/scoscochin Oct 07 '22

Click ‘show in reader’ if you’re on Safari Mobile. This will make the page readable and has the added benefit of bypassing most all paywalls.

(Just paying forward info from some other Redditor who posted this up)

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u/FollowingNo4648 Oct 07 '22

Yep, boss came to visit from CA and told me in that state, if you brought your house for $150,000 25 years ago, you only pay property taxes for that amount, basically the taxes never go up even if the price of the house increases. Unlike in Texas, I bought my house 9 yrs ago and my property taxes were $3k a year, now its over $7k per year. Yes I fucking hate Gregg Abbott

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u/doesyourmommaknow Oct 07 '22

They go up a little but no where near Texas levels. My parents bought a home in East Texas where they hope to retire for something like 250k. Their property taxes are about 6k a year now. Their primary California home is worth about 750K and their taxes are under 2k per year. Though I bought for 600k and my taxes are about 8k per year. Us younger people get screwed.

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u/Wesley_Skypes Oct 07 '22

I've never really understood property taxes in the US. Here in Ireland, I have a house worth about 700k euro and my property tax is around 650 a year. How the fuck does the US one go so high. Also, does it continue to need to be paid through retirement? That seems crazy to have to budget for potentially paying even more than 7k a year on a 250k property 20 years into retirement or whatever

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u/hellakevin Oct 07 '22

Texas pretends to be a tax haven because they have no income tax. Turns out, though, they have to pay for stuff so they have insane property taxes.

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u/deepredsky Oct 07 '22

That’s due to California’s prop 13, which has plenty of downsides. Mainly, cities want to approve only commercial development and deny housing because they can’t get rising tax revenue from housing

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u/barkingfloof- Oct 07 '22

Also inflates home prices because why would retirees sell and move to a smaller home if they’re paying 2k in taxes a year.

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u/Sarcastic-Ad-Bot Oct 07 '22

Probably also worth pointing out in TX property taxes get frozen for the elderly so something similar happens but also their taxes don't go up once they're retired either.

The entire US tax system is just beyond fucked. Who would have guessed basically operating as 50 different countries loosely allied would be complicated.

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u/OdinPelmen Oct 07 '22

smaller but now way, way, way more expensive home

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u/TekJansen69 Oct 07 '22

Greg Abbott is a little piss baby.

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u/GummyWormTaco Oct 07 '22

I bet those that fled to Texas cities to escape California taxes are pretty annoyed.

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u/dlev_ Oct 07 '22

Musk is probably pretty happy tho, TX doesn’t touch income of the top 0.1%

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u/Important_Sorbet_843 Oct 07 '22

Texans also get to freeze to death in the winter because Republicans are too incompetent to keep the damn lights on.

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u/Thatguy468 Oct 07 '22

They’re not incompetent, they are selfish and vicious, but they are very much adept at filling the needs of their masters.

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u/Luka_Dunks_on_Bums Oct 07 '22

I believe you meant to say themselves, how do you think Abbott, Patrick and Paxton are so rich.

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u/Thatguy468 Oct 07 '22

Those are the kind of people that would worship money like a master.

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u/Over_Swordfish3554 Oct 07 '22

Don't blame elected officials incompetence when they can fly to Mexico. Hi Cruz! 👋. Y'all Texans are paying for their trip!

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u/uglybudder Oct 07 '22

I found this podcast about the freeze and everything about our electric grid very interesting. We’re getting screwed here. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-disconnect-power-politics-and-the-texas-blackout/id1571508315?i=1000575735157

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u/ehenn12 Oct 07 '22

The cruelty is the point. They're not incompetent. They hate you and everyone you care about.

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u/Important_Sorbet_843 Oct 07 '22

They even hate their own voters. Either, their voters are too dumb to realize it or they just don’t care because they get off on the cruelty, too.

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u/longhairPapaBear Oct 07 '22

Greg Abbott is a little piss baby!

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u/wutangclanthug9mm Oct 07 '22

I will never let this die

Greg Abott is a little piss baby

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u/tway6939 Oct 07 '22

I see, this tweet is about little piss baby Greg Abbot!

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u/goatharper Oct 07 '22 Hugz

If young Texans sit home and let Abbott et al win again, I will has a sad.

Same goes for every state. Don't make excuses: vote against the obvious evil, even if you don't get everything you want from the Democrats. For that you vote in the primaries, and take over your local party organization.

I went to my county Democratic party convention in May. A couple dozen people deciding what my county does, and I, at 60, was the youngest person there.

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u/cdiddy19 Oct 07 '22

That's really unfortunate

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u/goatharper Oct 07 '22

It's an opportunity, as the TEA party and the MAGAts have amply demonstrated. It would only take a handful of young people to take over the Democratic party and get everything they want.

The only thing stopping you is apathy and defeatism.

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u/sunnydaysahead2022 Oct 07 '22

Hey - to anyone reading this in Florida-

This Tuesday is the deadline to register to vote.

Here is how you register -

https://registertovoteflorida.gov/home

We can get rid of Desantis and get legal weed with Crist if we just show up to vote.

Here’s Texas voting information too:

https://vrapp.sos.state.tx.us/index.asp

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u/Steampunk_Batman Oct 07 '22

Speaking as a former Texan, they make it next to impossible to vote over there. I was turned away because I had moved to a slightly bigger apartment within the same complex, so the address on my DL had a different unit number than my then-current address.

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u/whisperingelk Oct 07 '22

I know you’re a former Texan, but for anyone reading this who is still in the state, if they try this shit demand a provisional ballot. You have the right to one if there are any issues like this that pop up. It’s also a great idea to make sure in the summer before an election that you haven’t had your voter registration purged.

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u/Pussyfart1371 Oct 07 '22

Yep. You also cant register to vote online. Only through USPS. Absolute bullshit. They know wtf they’re doing.

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u/Keepinitcaz Oct 07 '22

That’s outrageous.

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u/cultured_banana_slug Oct 07 '22

By the time young people realize how much they've lost they won't have the power to get it back.

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u/DangerNewdle Oct 07 '22

I've voted against him every single election. Trying to get more of my friends to go out and do the same, but so many people here think change is impossible. Beto is our best bet for so many reasons, but the biggest thing is that he was a cunt hair away from beating Cruz for that senate seat. I think that showed people how close things really are, and I seriously hope that was enough to win him the governor seat. Lives are literally on the line at this point with the current status quo.

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u/UnsolicitedDogPics Oct 07 '22

But hey at least they’re getting a lot less for their tax dollars.

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u/ImProfoundlyDeaf Oct 07 '22

And Republicans in California are constantly complaining and blaming democrats for our (CA) taxes.

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u/Cool-Presentation538 Oct 07 '22

We always here about how socialism with ruin America. Yet we see the failure of capitalism and our current system every day and we all just sleepwalk into oblivion

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u/SubjectEnvironment23 Oct 07 '22

Little piss baby Greg Abbott?

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u/Traditional-Day5616 Oct 07 '22

Is this for real? God the gaslighting, lies, and propaganda of the right is strong, even I believed they were all about lower taxes. Should of known it was just another lie they tell everyone

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u/RandomAcc332311 Oct 07 '22

It's somewhat true, but not nearly to the extent this thread is making it out to be.

Texas taxes are higher for the bottom half of the population, and they get a lot less from it.

For high earners though, and not just billionaires, but people in the 70th, 80th, 90th percentile (which includes most households with two professionals), you pay less in Texas.

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u/sheezy520 Oct 07 '22

Republicans not being able to govern? The hell you say!

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '22

Kansas has entered the chat

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u/statistacktic Oct 07 '22

Weird thing is, people are leaving CA for TX because they think the opposite.

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u/AGreenJacket Oct 07 '22

Dude I can't believe I still drive around and see sign supporting Abbott. He has consistrntly screwed over Texans of all backgrounds amd regardless of your political alignment we should collectively be kicking his ass out.

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u/Eh-Eh-Ronn Oct 07 '22

This is the fatal flaw with the American experiment. They pay taxes (as do we here in Canada), but ours go toward public health, infrastructure, etc., while their taxes go to their military complex.

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u/RunsWithApes Oct 07 '22

They don’t care, the Republican party is a full blown cult kept in line by a bevy of right wing propaganda networks who will just denounce this as “fake news” and that’ll be the end of it.

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u/Used_Intention6479 Oct 07 '22

When Republicans say, "taxes need to be lower", they're referring to their taxes, not ours.

When Republicans say, "less regulations", they mean less protections for us.

And when they say, "law and order" and "our men in blue", that doesn't include storming the Capitol and assaulting police.

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u/Glass-Assignment-862 Oct 07 '22

Republican voters

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u/SmileGraceSmile Oct 07 '22

All the taxes of California, with out all the cool stuff that comes with it. Suckers.

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u/Minute-Ad4231 Oct 07 '22

I just came here to say, Fuck Greg Abbott. That is all

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u/SANMAN0927 Oct 07 '22

Ya Texas can keep itself. I go there far too often for work. And every time I hate it. 46x this year alone

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u/machinistsam Oct 07 '22

That's what happens when you elect a little piss baby

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u/butterflybuell Oct 07 '22

People who vote against their own best interests really don’t deserve sympathy. Just sayin.

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u/Even-Palpitation-391 Oct 07 '22

Gotta pay for those corporate tax breaks somewhere I guess. Better the Everyman than the billion dollar companies I guess.

Sincerely, A Californian.

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u/Marsandmars686 Oct 07 '22

Shit just got real 😂 not to mention him with his disasterious winter failure and his failure with hurricane his border issues etc and his awful policy he is a awful gov

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u/deefenator Oct 07 '22

Yeah no worries, taxes go towards public goods, like the energy grid. Right? Right???

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u/rainbirdstew Oct 07 '22

texas please get rid of this clown abbot. we have all had it with these dishonest pigs - and take ted cruz with him

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u/DjRemux Oct 07 '22

This is actually hilarious

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