r/interestingasfuck • u/Drunkcodes • Mar 23 '23
An 8-mile long "canvas" discovered in the Amazon Rainforest. It contains ice age drawings of long-extinct animals.
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u/czl Mar 23 '23
That water did not wash or erode this away is amazing.
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u/Tony_Earll Mar 23 '23
They are protected by an overhang.
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u/fondledbydolphins Mar 23 '23
Cave men really were ahead of their time building overhangs.
History is fascinating.
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u/Tony_Earll Mar 23 '23 edited Mar 23 '23
That's a really dumb comment. I'm not even going to explain how.
Every down vote is an idiot that thinks natural overhangs can't exist.
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u/YogurtNo3045 Mar 23 '23
Bless your heart
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u/Tony_Earll Mar 23 '23
Kiss my ass
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u/ThePoopPirate Mar 23 '23
You should take a nap you're being fussy.
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u/Tony_Earll Mar 23 '23
These idiots don't think natural overhangs exist and want to come at me for actually having fucking knowledge about the paintings. I'm tired of ignorant fucks denying science. Take your stupid somewhere else.
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u/ThePoopPirate Mar 23 '23
I think you missed the joke lol.
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u/Tony_Earll Mar 23 '23
There is no joke except stupid people thinking they are smart.
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u/dontpassthecheese Mar 23 '23
Looool not only are you a cunt but you also seem to think youre clever and knowledgable for stating the fucking obvious???
Fkin neckbeard
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u/pepii_c Mar 23 '23
Natural overhangs are a myth, change my mind.
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u/Tony_Earll Mar 23 '23
You are mentally retarded. Change my mind.
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u/Dumdum0000000 Mar 23 '23
You must be fun at parties!
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u/whatproblems Mar 23 '23 edited Mar 24 '23
as a spectator this is hilarious
also if you got this far it went further!
https://www.reddit.com/r/woosh/comments/11zp89p/doubling_down/
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u/Ok-Survey3853 Mar 23 '23
Probably is. Seems like the kinda person that people would enjoy punching.
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u/TheNerdyOne_ Mar 23 '23
Oh honey...
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u/Tony_Earll Mar 23 '23
Don't oh honey me. Take your goddamn clown shoes somewhere else.
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u/ThePoopPirate Mar 23 '23
Yikes
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u/turtlebuttdestroyer Mar 23 '23
Sarcasm is difficult for some people
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u/fondledbydolphins Mar 23 '23
Wait, do you destroy turtle butts?
Or are you a turtle that destroys any type of butt?
OR are you a french brand of tank named Turt Le Buttdestroyer...?
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u/MildUsername Mar 23 '23
Unfortunately for you the truth is that every downvote is someone who thinks you're an edgy, easily aggravated goober.
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u/yousirnaime Mar 23 '23
found the science denier
it's called "evolution", bigot
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u/Tony_Earll Mar 23 '23
What the stupid fuck are you going on about? Who the fuck is talking about evolution? You don't know what a bigot is. Now go back to class child.
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u/ThePoopPirate Mar 23 '23
The people who built this EVOLVED the ability to create overhangs. It likely took millions of years. Makes you wonder why there aren't any painting of dinosaurs.
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u/Tony_Earll Mar 23 '23
They didn't BUILD THE OVERHANG! That is the whole point! The wall NATURALLY CREATES AN OVERHANG THAT WAS NOT BUILT OR CREATED BY HUMANS. Holy fuck Reddit is fucking stupid today. I'm very familiar with this discovery but knowledge doesn't mean shit when all it takes is some fucking troll to deny facts and everybody attacks the one person that knows what they are talking about.
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u/RedCravat Mar 23 '23
You are just so self-absorbed you missed a joke and are defending against a JOKE. Like a raging bull in a stadium, but everyone is laughing at you instead of being impressed. Gotta take the social cues
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u/thon Mar 23 '23 •
by someone called fondledbydolphins and ThePoopPirate. The internet is great sometimes
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u/Gramage Mar 23 '23
I've never seen such a glorious woosh, so far over your head we should attach satellites to the joke to save money putting them in orbit.
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u/ThePoopPirate Mar 23 '23 •
I dunno man you can tell by the striations that someone with advanced knowledge of masonry created that overhang. But who taught them how to do this is the question? I wonder if theyd pay to have some amazing intellect like Graham Handcock to study it to find the truth.
Maybe they'll discover some photos of humans and dinosaurs interacting! That'd be amazing.
My.theory is dinosaurs still exist... In inner earth. I heard inner earth is where Hitler fled but honestly I doubt the Atlantians would be cool with him.
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u/DRTYRYDR686 Mar 23 '23
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u/Tony_Earll Mar 23 '23
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u/DRTYRYDR686 Mar 23 '23
You seem like a really fun person...
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u/Tony_Earll Mar 23 '23
Ask your girlfriend.
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u/DRTYRYDR686 Mar 23 '23
Hahahaha I want to meet the person who peed in your cereal.
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u/Tony_Earll Mar 24 '23
It was that chick that came over here last time and barfed in the salad.
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u/blur911sc Mar 23 '23
So is the paint on my house's window trim, but it flaked off in about 15 years.
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u/i_lie_except_on_31st Mar 24 '23
Yah, dead wood ain't shit for much after a decade or two. Pvc windows ftw.
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u/Tony_Earll Mar 23 '23
Ah so it since your paint flakes off your house that means these paintings couldn't have existed so long? Wow. You people are fucking stupid.
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u/arcosapphire Mar 23 '23
What's it like waking up each day and deciding, "today I'm just going to be an asshole to everyone I can for no reason"? Like if trolling is all you have to live for, that is just monumentally sad. I'm sorry your life is so devoid of meaning.
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u/LinguoBuxo Mar 23 '23
The wiki says it's some 12000 years old. Sheesh. I wish the paint I put on my house last year lasts one fifth that long!!
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u/trwwy321 Mar 23 '23
I guess you’ll have to start painting your house with ochre — which is what they used (red ochre).
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u/tm5Cats2Dogs Mar 23 '23
Why are barns red? Same answer. Shit loads of iron in the universe
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u/ElectroFlannelGore Apr 02 '23
Bombard the Earth with photons long enough and the output, eventually, is red barns.
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u/zuilserip Mar 23 '23
One fifth as long would still be 2400 years - so painted before 0AD. That would have still been pretty amazing!
When I search for 'how often I should paint my house' I get a range of 5-10 years, so even 1/1,000 as long seems pretty good compared to modern paints!
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u/IsThataSexToy Mar 23 '23
Did you just math in Reddit?!? Please leave and think about your behavior!
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u/Albussy_Dumbledick Mar 23 '23
I recently learned there’s people that really think earth is only 6,000 years old. My mind was blown
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u/My_Brain_Hates_Me Mar 23 '23
I was talking to a guy at work and he said he believes the Earth is only 6000 years old and if evolution were true, why are we no longer evolving. I know some people believe this but to have it said to me by another person face to face...I was floored. I tried to explain how things really are but then I was just like, fuck this. I haven't spoken to him since. Some people are just incredibly dumb.
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u/mrs_shrew Mar 23 '23
I knew someone like that, she lived with a geologist. In the end they had to agree never to discuss the age of the earth because they'd just break each others heads every time.
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u/Albussy_Dumbledick Mar 24 '23
Considering it took something like 20,000 years for skin pigment to change I’d say any evolution wouldn’t be noticeable/happen in our very short life times
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u/sea_of_joy__ Mar 24 '23
This view was espoused only in the USA by white capitalists. It allowed their followers to not have to believe in evolution, not have to believe that all humans originated from a common people, and not have to see the benefits of our paleolithic lifestyle and how that's getting eroded by industrialization.
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u/Successful-Engine623 Mar 23 '23
I think the paint is more like a stain or something…can’t remember exactly but it isn’t something that can wash off. Like maybe a chemical reaction of sorts…maybe like a burn
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u/Present-Industry4012 Mar 23 '23
but still, once in a while the wind is gonna blow rain onto it. Even if it only did that once a year, that's still 32 years worth of non-stop rain.
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u/JustLikeAmmy Mar 23 '23
What's it called to look up more info?
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u/SupplementalComment Mar 23 '23
It’s called the Sistine Chapel of the ancients, found in Colombia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sistine_Chapel_of_the_ancients
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u/betaamyloid Mar 23 '23
One of the most bare-bones Wikipedia links I've seen... literally just 7 sentences. Probably a sign of how new and understudied these paintings are.
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u/-maffu- Mar 23 '23
In fairness, the discovery was only made public in 2020 -- just in time for COVID, lockdown, and ensuing chaos.
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u/doomguybutchill Mar 23 '23
That explains why I've never heard of this.... to a degree.
This is insane.
Holy shit, batman.
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u/dirtbagsauna Mar 23 '23
Look at the drawings of Sego Canyon in Utah, USA. Lots of similar pictographs in the southwest US.
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u/N1cko1138 Mar 23 '23
It's probably to protect its location from destruction, removal of parts from other parties.
Also the longer the location is hidden the more possible value it retains for the research funder.
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u/eastern_shoreman Mar 23 '23
They haven’t figured out how to spin the discovery to keep it in line with the story they already tell about our history
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u/blur911sc Mar 23 '23
How about it was painted sometime in the 1990's as a tourist trap? That would line up.
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u/W1ULH Mar 23 '23
used the articles people are posting ITT to add an infobox and a photo to the article... spruce it up a little bit
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u/GeordieStottieShagga Mar 23 '23
If you find out please can you @me please! Thank you in advance if so!
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u/Trout_Shark Mar 23 '23
One more reason not to destroy the Amazon rainforest.
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u/Don_T_Blink Mar 23 '23
Agreed Bit ironically the chances to discover things like this are higher without rain forest.
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u/zorokash Mar 23 '23
No it isn't. People explore the forest all the damn time.
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u/ShooteShooteBangBang Mar 23 '23
Uh, no they don't. They use LIDAR mapping because people can't explore the rainforest without dying
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u/Luciferisntlonely Mar 23 '23
I love LIDAR! So much of humanity's history being found, when even with human exploration we wouldn't have found it. Over 500 mesoamerican sites found in Mexico alone that we would have never found with human exploration.
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u/zorokash Mar 23 '23
No, that's only initial stage exploration because lidar can tell only the shapes of Rocky objects and very little else. Lidar is purely an ariel survey which penetrates the canopy, nothing more. Theres a lot more to exploration.
Even the above rock formations are natural and would be impossible to find with Lidar detecting nothing useful. This is done with purely humans venturing onto the wild.
Also, the problem with this kind of exploration is half the danger is wildlife, the other half is terrorists and mafia who control the land and its access. The latter is the more formidable one as you can reasonably protect yourself from wild life and carry precautions. There is very little to protect from a guerrilla bullet.
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u/joleme Mar 23 '23
The lack of common sense and logic in your reply is breathtaking.
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u/Takeonlyone Mar 23 '23
It’s not exploring when you’re lost…
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u/zorokash Mar 23 '23
There are always locals to guide. Even in the middle Amazon's densest forests.
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u/thibounet Mar 23 '23
It would be easier to find those without all the fucking trees in the middle don't you think ?
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u/zorokash Mar 23 '23
It would be easier if there were a bunch of giant arrows pointing to the locations aswell.
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u/Shamino79 Mar 23 '23 edited Mar 23 '23
Turn it into a savannah.
Edit. /s Really? Yes it would be a bad idea.
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u/paulsmt Mar 23 '23
I hope they find a way to protect it.
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u/Metallic_Hedgehog Mar 23 '23
I just want to know what animal that is supposed to depict on the middle left. The cubic chungus with antlers (rabbit ears?).
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u/PrivateTheatricals Mar 23 '23
Right? I’m staring at these paintings, looking for extinct animals, and I can’t help thinking, “Are we sure these people weren’t just kinda bad at drawing?”
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u/DinksMcFly Mar 23 '23
Hopefully there isn't an exact location given or we'll have dumbfuck influencers or uncaring kids decide to destroy it because they can.
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u/Emberdeath Mar 23 '23
I doubt they'd make it very far, part of the reason this is only now being discovered is due to the high mortality rate of the Amazon.
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u/3HunnaBurritos Mar 23 '23
I mean you can go to Egypt and the ancient hieroglyphs are at your fingertips and the damage made is insignificant, I wouldn't worry about that.
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u/machuitzil Mar 23 '23
The damage is not insignificant. Tourists have vandalized and stolen objects, and there's literal erosion of the stone from people's footsteps. Any damage done to 3k year old site is not insignificant.
There are piles and piles of stones at Machu Picchu that will never be able to be replaced, mostly attributable to mismanagement and tourism.
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u/MajesticCrabapple Mar 23 '23
You know, you could be thinking about what this means for the scope of humanity or pondering the symbols and their meanings of this crazy cool artifact. But instead you choose to shake your cane at the youths.
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u/RichElectrolyte Mar 24 '23
Not likely, bud. It's in FARC territory and requires tons of careful negations to get in safely. It's very remote.
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u/frealfr Mar 23 '23
Really old graffiti.
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u/PicardTangoAlpha Mar 23 '23
In the name of all that is holy, keep the location secret and protect it. It needs UNESCO funding immediately to conduct studies as well I'm sure.
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u/LGchan Mar 23 '23
It needs to be protected far better than other sites have been, considering the horrific destruction of aboriginal artwork in Australia, and frankly innumerable other cases of vandalism, theft, and destruction.
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u/ElizaPlume212 Mar 23 '23
It was reported in December 2020. I can't copy the url, but if you go to the Science Times and search for ~8-Mile Long Rock Painting from the Ice Age, Discovered~
According to my search, this has been on Reddit at least 3x before today, so if it seems familiar, that's why.
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u/Live-Mail-7142 Mar 23 '23
Ok, the wiki led me to this https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13655156/
There are only 3 episodes and a reviewer wrote It appears this show has terminated with 3 episodes. ... I like many were drawn to the show because of the great publicity it got regarding the wall paintings.
So, episode the painting is either in episode 1 or 2
Episode 1 is on apple https://tv.apple.com/gb/episode/episode-1/umc.cmc.6lf4kw5wz0shv3b9rsumlcepy?showId=umc.cmc.5i6qjolrlcw5xtonth0bkkf88
WAIT!!!! all 3 episodes are here https://www.channel4.com/programmes/jungle-mystery-lost-kingdoms-of-the-amazon
I hope the keep this canvas under lock and key or you know some influencer is going to spray paint it.
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u/sanjosanjo Mar 23 '23
I was wondering how they can identify extinct animals from these drawings. It seems there is some scientific debate about how to interpret the animal species.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/06/science/ice-age-rock-art.html
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u/weelluuuu Mar 23 '23
Seems like the squiggly line was very important. Any guesses as to the meaning?
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u/TlingitGolfer24 Mar 23 '23
Great flood?
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u/weelluuuu Mar 23 '23
Floods are real. Was there a great flood though? Plenty of civilizations have an 'unbroken' history.
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u/TheseMoviesIwant Mar 23 '23
Why do they never bring the camera guy that takes 50,000 photos of the sun so you can see the cells that make up plasma. I want to zoom in and it not be blury
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u/icrushallevil Mar 23 '23
The rain forest is literally the worst environment for preservation. Warm air, high moisture, bacteria, fog, rain, animals...
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u/VegemiteAnalLube Mar 23 '23
White girls with dreads getting these tattooed on them in 3... 2...
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u/SouthViking Mar 23 '23
Then they start each sentence with “Did you know…” whilst pulling up the article of clothing covering the tattoo and end with “… and that’s why it really aligns with my souls spirit”.
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u/AssRaddish Mar 23 '23
So when do the logging companies come to destroy it?
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u/Powerful_Market_9558 Mar 23 '23
How long until some dumbass finds them and graffities them? God I hate some people.
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u/unclearimage Mar 23 '23
Yes but does it have comments about someone else's mom being a slut?
If it doesn't; how could it have been made by a human being?
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u/ruggedAstronaut Mar 23 '23
If the paintings show extinct animals we take them as part of the historical record but as soon as something like a dragon pops up we disregard it entirely as art or nonsense.
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u/Emberdeath Mar 23 '23
That's because we have fossils or other palaeontological remains of the animals depicted in the paintings, we know they existed, it's part of the reason they can identify the animals in such paintings in the first place. Dragons are fantastical which is why they are seen as art, the reason so many depictions of them appear around the world is due to trade and social interactions between mainly Europe and Asia.
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u/G-T-L-3 Mar 23 '23
Dragon-lore is really based on dinosaur skeletons. Just add in a ton of imagination and forget about recorded human interaction (or lack of it) and get Smaug.
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u/ITFOWjacket Mar 23 '23
Right. Basically all “mythical” creatures are ancient interpretations of the prehistoric fossils lying around on the surface. Mammoth skull? Cyclops. T-rex skull? Dragon. Whale skull? Leviathan. Giant Squid sighting? I’d say Kraken but tbh our two bell curves have converged already, Giant Squids and Whales already blur the line enough
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u/Luciferisntlonely Mar 23 '23
Wow Europe and Asia trade and social interactions with mesoamricans, precolonization? Tell me more please. I'd love to hear of the trade routes between the ancient natives in the Americas and European or Asian countries.
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u/Emberdeath Mar 23 '23
I assume you're referring to Quetzalcoatl? The Feathered Serpent? Well you probably aren't aware of this, (not blaming you it's not hugely common knowledge) but that is a god amongst the Aztecs, which was a civilization that started in about 1300 AD and ended in 1521 AD, very far from being ancient. In fact Oxford University was founded over about 400 years before Aztecs existed.
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u/Eternal991 Mar 23 '23
There is no way the pigments used would have survived outside for that long in this condition
I call shenanigans on OP’s post
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u/TheIndomitableMass Mar 23 '23
Pardon me, but did you mean to say mile? 8 miles? How in the hell?
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u/A_curious_fish Mar 23 '23
You think they fucked up on the bottom and then scribbled it all out? Like they were drawing the story as Tony was narrating it and then Bill walks up and looks at what's written all confused and goes," Tony you fucking made all this shit up! You were curled up in a ball while we battled the Sabre tooth ga big baby!" ....I'm gonna go with that story in my head
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u/razorwiregoatlick877 Mar 23 '23
I was really confused about how a civilization 12000 years old made an 8 mile long canvas until I looked up more information.
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u/JeTeCroisPas Mar 23 '23
That obviously a message of how to rebuilt the civilisation if it crash again.
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u/Ok_Committee1078 Mar 23 '23
So any mythical creatures depicted in there that could possibly wipe us out if it existed?
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u/Butterbuddha Mar 23 '23
At the very end you can probably check out some Global Warming era QR codes that lead you to RAAAAAAAID Shadow Legends!!!!
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u/cornflakegrl Mar 23 '23
“Their date is based partly on their depictions of now-extinct ice age animals, such as the mastodon, a prehistoric relative of the elephant that hasn’t roamed South America for at least 12,000 years. There are also images of the palaeolama, an extinct camelid, as well as giant sloths and ice age horses.”
That’s so cool.
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u/nocapstemcap Mar 23 '23
Imagine being an explorer and walking in quite literally the middle of nowhere in some forest that’s never been explored and stumbling across that? That’s gotta be a pretty mind bending experience. Probably hits harder than some drugs lmao
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