r/nba NBA Sep 20 '22 Silver 2

[Charania] Timberwolves guard Anthony Edwards has been fined $40,000 for using offensive and derogatory language on social media. News

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u/iksnet Knicks Sep 20 '22

For context, that’s the same amount Nurkic got fined for grabbing and throwing a fan’s phone

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u/loudanduneducated Raptors Sep 20 '22

$50K is the most edwards could have been fined for this for added context.

KD got fined it for harassing Michael Rapaport, and it’s the same amount Meyers Leonard was fined for dropping ethnic slurs while streaming COD Warzone.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '22

To be fair, I think that COD crashes if you don't type or say something racist every 15 minutes or so.

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u/goldfish_11 Celtics Sep 20 '22

So you're saying that they could shut down all chats today and the game would still run for eternity?

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u/TallStephen 76ers Sep 20 '22 edited Sep 21 '22 Silver Helpful Evil Cackle

So you’re saying a Celtics fan suddenly became good at math when it comes to slurs?

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u/goldfish_11 Celtics Sep 20 '22

If we only know one thing...

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u/Taydolf_Switler22 Lakers Sep 20 '22

They’re all wicked smaht when it comes to math.

I saw a documentary on it once.

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u/loudanduneducated Raptors Sep 20 '22

I laughed so hard at this.

Take my upvote, thanks for the funniest thing I read today.

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u/PensiveinNJ 76ers Sep 20 '22

CoD lobbies circa MW/MW2/BLOPS were something else.

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u/100MScoville Raptors Sep 20 '22

the key is to be well read on geopolitics and history so you can say something devastatingly racist without resorting to slurs

This is especially effective against Balkan nations, but regional shit talk cuts the deepest wherever you go

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u/famousbanana Knicks Sep 20 '22

Leonard's gamer moment is still one of the great nba gamer moments, but Ant is trying

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u/foreverapanda [TOR] Hakeem Olajuwon Sep 20 '22

They really should scale the fines with the salary cap or with the specific players contract. Especially since it goes to charity anyway.

At least in order for it to keep meaning something. Getting fined 15k was at least a bit of a deterrent 15-20 years ago when the league average salary was like 3-4m. Not so much anymore.

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u/BubbaTee Sep 20 '22

They really should scale the fines with the salary cap or with the specific players contract.

They really should do that with all fines, from parking tickets to corporate antitrust lawsuits.

A minimum wager and a CEO should be equally discouraged from parking in a red zone, but a $75 parking ticket only discourages one of them. The other one doesn't even notice.

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u/Hilian [DEN] Allen Iverson Sep 21 '22

If a law is made with a fine as punishment, it is intended to ignore the wealthy and only impact the average citizen/the impoverished

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u/loudanduneducated Raptors Sep 20 '22

Honestly.

If it was a % of their contract they were on it would also make sense.

A rookie no-name player, and a superstar like KD, despite having vastly different incomes and outreaches, would be fined the same amount.

Considering a guy like KD has a far greater reach for who sees his stuff, and makes so much money that a $50K fine doesn’t hurt his income, it directly punishes a no name guy more than KD, despite KD’s platform being bigger where what he does impacts more people.

Might seem unfair to fine some guys more for the same thing, but clearly a $40-50k fine means Jack shit for a guy making $30+ million a year.

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u/SnuggleMuffin42 [BOS] Marcus Smart Sep 20 '22

Honestly the KD fine was sus. Rappaport is a troll who admitted he called him by a million names on their private shit talking DMs (for years, too), then removed all of his own comment leaving just KD cussing him out.

Posting something on social media and sending messages to your friend are not the same.

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u/loudanduneducated Raptors Sep 20 '22

At the same time, Rapaport isn’t employed by the NBA and KD is.

Regardless of the situation, KD acted in a way the NBA didn’t agree with. He could have easily blocked Rapaport or ignored him. However he engaged in a back and forth, and Rapaport being spineless brought it to light.

The fact is KD did/said things that clearly went beyond what the NBA deems acceptable, and he was fined for doing so by his employer.

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u/Tormundo Warriors Sep 20 '22

Didn't kd threaten him and say some horrible shit? Fine seems like he got off light

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '22

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u/tangential_quip Lakers Sep 20 '22

Fines based on a set percentage of a player's salary is a fair system. It's the current system that is unfair because it is far more punitive to players making less money. Some countries do this for speeding tickets.

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u/loudanduneducated Raptors Sep 20 '22

And not should they.

A union should focus on how to make players the most money they can, not focus on how to properly fine players or how their players can pay more money for fines.

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u/LegitElephant Raptors Sep 20 '22

The NBA would have to negotiate with the player’s union to make this happen. Obviously, the player’s union isn’t going to go for this.

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u/garynevilleisared Raptors Sep 20 '22

Yeah I feel like this is a lack of precedent situation rather than a relative "what's worse" comparison. Lack of precedent because I don't think any active player has been this stupid to say these sorts of things. Only other high profile player I can think of is Tim Hardaway but iirc he was retired already when he said those derogatory things, and from what I hear he's more than made up for it by ongoing work with the LGBT community.

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u/online_predator [ATL] Dennis Schroder Sep 20 '22 edited Sep 20 '22

Rondo called a gay ref the f word to his face and only got a 1 game suspension lol.

Bill Kennedy also has had issues with Doc calling him slurs in 2009.

This pales in comparison to that.

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u/garynevilleisared Raptors Sep 20 '22

Wait...I didn't know the ref was actually gay. That's pretty bad wow

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u/online_predator [ATL] Dennis Schroder Sep 20 '22

He publicly came out like 2 weeks after the incident. But by all accounts it seemed like it was an open secret amongst players/refs/coaches, at least from what I can tell.

The Kobe incident in which he was fined 100k for was a different ref and not Bill Kennedy.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '22

I thought it was Kennedy that Kobe slurred.

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u/online_predator [ATL] Dennis Schroder Sep 20 '22

Kobe made his comments to Bernie Adams

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u/ihavetwonoses Timberwolves Sep 20 '22

Then he should have been fined 50k

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u/cholula_is_good [GSW] Best of 2021 Winner Sep 20 '22

I want an AMA with the dude who sniped Meyers Leonard

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u/Montigue [POR] Hasheem Thabeet Sep 20 '22

The fan that called Nurkic's grandma a bitch right after she died of COVID

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u/FromXtotheL Suns Sep 20 '22

I hate that fans can say these things to athletes in prime physical condition without fear of serious retaliation.

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u/amenacingballsack 76ers Sep 21 '22

*Ron Artest dances into the chat*

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u/cancercureall Supersonics Sep 20 '22

While I applaud as a general rule the departure from solving personal conflicts with violence.

I strongly support the freedom of speech and do not want laws on the books preventing people from speaking their truth.

Some people cross a line that I think deserves consequences and I do not know how we could possibly account for it.

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u/UnsungHerro Rockets Sep 20 '22

Grabbing a fan's property and trying to break it in hopes of intimidating him. I'm surprised he wasn't fined more lol.

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u/suns2012 Suns Sep 20 '22

If I remember correctly, the story was that the fan had said something about Nurkic's grandmother who had recently passed away from covid or gotten sick with covid, something along those lines. Not sure if that was ever officially confirmed though

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u/ThurstonJK Trail Blazers Sep 20 '22

Fans have been getting way too comfortable with being insanely disrespectful, it might be time for Malice at the Palace 2: Electric Boogaloo

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u/dautjazz Jazz Sep 20 '22

WOW, fuck that guy, he should be in a hospital bed. Getting his phone trashed? He should count his blessings.

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u/Briggity_Brak Tampa Bay Raptors Sep 20 '22

Nah, fuck that guy. Nurk should've been REWARDED for that shit.

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u/Classics22 Trail Blazers Sep 20 '22 edited Sep 20 '22

They probably adjusted the fine considering the fan was calling Nurkic's grandmother, who had just died from COVID, a bitch

Fan should count his blessings he walked away with all his teeth

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u/anthonyde726 [HOU] Alperen Şengün Sep 20 '22

fan was a dickhead dawg don't act like it wasn't deserved

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u/AWall925 Rockets Sep 20 '22

Meyers Leonard got 50k, so at least the NBA is consistent

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u/durklil Magic Sep 20 '22

Kobe got 100k

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u/unfonfortable Warriors Sep 20 '22

MJ would have gotten $200k

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u/Mistah_Wasabi Spurs Sep 20 '22

thats my goat

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u/SolarClipz [SAC] DeMarcus Cousins Sep 20 '22

MICHAEL JEFFREY JORDAN

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u/ZeroMomentum Raptors Sep 20 '22

And I paid that personally

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u/Ronaldeaux Timberwolves Sep 20 '22

so at least the NBA is consistent

Not when Leonard got a one week suspension and Ant isn't getting one

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u/Hia7us Lakers Sep 20 '22

Wasn't the suspension levied by the Heat organization specifically?

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u/SensitiveRocketsFan Rockets Sep 20 '22

Wasn’t that suspension just for show? Since Leonard was already injured he didn’t even lose money for that week.

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u/AWall925 Rockets Sep 20 '22

If I remember right, he was out for the season at the point- I think it was just pandering+ it’s not during the season

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u/ThisAnswerIsLit Lakers Sep 20 '22

That'll teach him

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u/baudinl Supersonics Sep 20 '22

Don't worry, he was raised better

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u/AShinyTorchic Sep 20 '22

I mean what you want em to do, fine him his whole seasons pay?

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u/Oachkatzlschwoaf05 Celtics Sep 21 '22

I want Adam Silver to spank him as punishment

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u/BigBoodles Timberwolves Sep 20 '22

Suspension.

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u/wahsd Hornets Sep 21 '22

Suspension for saying queer? Lordy

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u/houellebecq420 Rockets Sep 21 '22

I'm sure the player's union would be good with that

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u/BasketballNutrition [SAS] Keldon Johnson Sep 20 '22

he probably makes this every week off endorsements alone lol and he's about to be making 40 million a year pretty soon. what a wrist slap.

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u/Losalou52 Trail Blazers Sep 20 '22

Anthony Edwards announces special autograph signing for 100 lucky fans. $400 per person to attend.

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u/KeepenItReel Timberwolves Sep 21 '22

Must. Resist.

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u/desirox Mavericks Sep 20 '22

Lol. I mean I get it what is the NBA supposed to do but Edwards spends 40k on a shopping trip

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u/Rahnamatta Heat Sep 20 '22

That's why fines should be a % of the salary.

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u/online_predator [ATL] Dennis Schroder Sep 20 '22

No union would ever agree to that, unless they are getting some serious concessions from the league

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u/TriCourseMeal Nuggets Sep 20 '22

The players association isn’t an actual union though it’s just a collective bargaining group

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u/KnoxsFniteSuit Knicks Sep 20 '22

At first I thought you were being pedantic, but that is actually super interesting.

So after some googling, I guess collective bargaining leads to collective bargaining agreements. While collective bargaining groups are what you call people seeking these agreements, they do not necessarily have to be a union. Although unions often are the main entity (?) when discussing collective bargaining groups.

So I assume unions always seek out a CBA and that's like the base part of being in a union? If I may ask, what else is important about the distinction between a union and a group? Legal rights?

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u/KnoxsFniteSuit Knicks Sep 20 '22

True true. I wasn't aware they weren't a union tho. Although, I'm doing even more googling and I couldn't find a lot that says they aren't a labor union?

It wasn't until I googled "nbapa not a union" that I found out it was in 2011(the lockout negotiations) that they were downgraded to a trade association: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Basketball_Players_Association#:~:text=2011%20lockout,-Main%20article%3A%202011&text=On%20November%2014%2C%20the%20NBPA,lockout%20an%20illegal%20group%20boycott.

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u/mrgoodwalker Spurs Sep 21 '22

Says they reformed as a union. Looks like it became any trade association to allow a class action antitrust suit against the owners.

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u/undercoverballer [BOS] Jaylen Brown Sep 20 '22

Not just in the NBA. Parking tickets are only for poor people. Speeding tickets too. The kids I grew up with, they didn’t give a fuck about tickets, that kind of money was nothing to them. For me, an extra $40 from a parking ticket is very difficult to manage.

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u/kingjuicepouch Bulls Sep 20 '22

If the only punishment is financial then it's only a law for the poor

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u/undercoverballer [BOS] Jaylen Brown Sep 20 '22

Exactly!!!

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u/AtreusIsBack Sep 20 '22

The good old war against poor people, not poverty.

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u/iGlowstick Heat Sep 20 '22

Equivalent to a Dollar Menu item for us common folk.

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u/harmonic- Sep 20 '22

homophobia: solved.

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u/allknowerofknowing Bulls Sep 20 '22

all it took was $40,000!

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '22

40K for being anti-gay

So fitting that it rhymes

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u/Big_al_big_bed [UTA] Al Jefferson Sep 21 '22

40k the gay away

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u/Nervous_Oven7889 Celtics Sep 20 '22

Cause it would have been solved by suspending him?

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u/AtreusIsBack Sep 20 '22

Like fining him 40k sends any message at all.

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u/GrabSomePineMeat Warriors Sep 20 '22

I don't think the NBA can or should try to solve homophobia.

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u/watabadidea Toronto Huskies Sep 21 '22

In society? Or within their membership?

I mean, I don't expect my company to solve the entirety of societal issues when it comes to homophobia. I do expect them not to hire/employ openly homophobic individuals that casually and confidently push homophobic language and bigotry.

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u/robertshuxley Nuggets Sep 20 '22

was he harassing Bo Cruz's family again?

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u/Smellmyhand [SAS] Devin Brown Sep 20 '22

For reference, the most a player can be fined for a single incident is 50k. Because I know this thread is going to be full of people who don’t understand that just as they were a few days ago

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u/KingSwagamemnon [MEM] Kenneth Lofton Jr. Sep 20 '22

To be fair, I think they get that, I think the issue they have is that the maximum of 50k is not enough in a lot of instances.

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u/why_rob_y 76ers Sep 20 '22

Also, if the most he can be fined is $50,000, but he was fined $40,000, it sounds like the maximum fine wasn't the issue holding the fine down.

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u/Gabe681 Lakers Sep 20 '22

How was Kobe fined $100k? Is this a newer rule?

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u/Smellmyhand [SAS] Devin Brown Sep 20 '22

Yeah it’s newer. Within the last 5-10 years I think

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u/TheRealNexusPrime [LAC] Kawhi Leonard Sep 21 '22

Funny because players earn more now than ever before, yet the max fine has went down. Pro-player union isn't always good for the NBA

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u/smoltanboi Heat Sep 20 '22

anthony "nick mullen" edwards

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u/online_predator [ATL] Dennis Schroder Sep 20 '22

Nick Mullen? The famous producer?

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u/andrew2018022 Magic Sep 20 '22

I thought he meant the quarterback

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u/mr_grission Knicks Sep 20 '22

no, you're thinking of Nick Millions

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u/online_predator [ATL] Dennis Schroder Sep 20 '22

Common mistake, my apologies

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u/MF_COOM Knicks Sep 20 '22

He and I are actually really close friends. Good guy.

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u/Baksetball [DEN] Nikola Jokic Sep 20 '22

Oh yeah you guys are close? Name everything he’s ever done

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u/MF_COOM Knicks Sep 20 '22

Well, he and I invited two of our friends over and recorded our little chats for a couple years, but it’s a bit of a sore spot for us these days. Back in the Austin days though, we always had a dream of making a center left focused tv talk show, and together we’ve begun writing monologues for the brand new The Adam Friedland Show Produced By Nick Mullen. I’m in the credits somewhere though.

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u/Baksetball [DEN] Nikola Jokic Sep 20 '22

shit you guys are really close my b my b

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u/dwide_k_shrude Warriors Sep 21 '22

Nick Mullens, the legendary QB.

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u/baudinl Supersonics Sep 20 '22

Why did they ease off that $50k limit? Odd that Meyers Leonard got the full treatment and this didn't.

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u/jnprrnsp 76ers Sep 20 '22

Adam Silver is Jewish and straight /s

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u/JilJungJukk Lakers Sep 20 '22

Curryybacon back on the menu

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u/_canadianbacon Celtics Sep 20 '22

damn, what a punishment. probably wiping his tears with 100 dollar bills rn

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u/dehydratedbagel NBA Sep 21 '22

Wow 40k for a guy who will make half a billion by the time he's 30? Hope he can handle such a loss.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '22

That’s weak, silver should have him removed from the wolves and relocated to the rockets also

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u/ShawshankException Knicks Sep 20 '22

FOR LIFE

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u/SVGMessiah NBA Sep 20 '22

Lmao losing that 40k is really gonna be tough for Ant

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u/gunnar117 Timberwolves Sep 20 '22

He could possibly lose endorsements/opportunities. It's gonna cost him more than $40K

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u/KitchenReno4512 Kings Sep 20 '22

Doubt

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u/Stalyx Heat Sep 21 '22

A lot of brands would look elsewhere. I mean you don't want to lose customers, and since there are several other NBA stars who fit the bill of a young, explosive, athlete. Company executives would be tempted to go with a less controversial choice,

Also, it would really matter how Ant responds. Everyone likes a good redemption arc. And we forget how young Ant is -- this is truly an oppotunity for him to grow.

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u/YpsitheFlintsider Pistons Sep 21 '22

posts gif of Edwards looking at the hand next to him in Hustle

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u/Eren_Schitt Warriors Sep 20 '22

That’s 1/268th his yearly salary.

The median US Salary is ~50k.

This is equivalent to a $186 ticket to a ~50k salary worker.

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u/PFhelpmePlan Timberwolves Sep 21 '22

Actually makes it more palatable, a $186 fine/speeding ticket would piss me the hell off.

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u/thedeadlysun Pelicans Sep 20 '22

This is really bringing out the homophobes in the nba Twitter space. It’s actually disgusting how blatant they are.

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u/Obi_Wan_Benobi NBA Sep 21 '22

Aaron Gordon has entered the chat

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u/thedeadlysun Pelicans Sep 21 '22

Wouldn’t be shocked if most of the nba agrees with him. Remember when people were quoting hitler and not seeing anything wrong with it?

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u/Cudi_buddy Kings Sep 21 '22

Fuck Stephen and Deshaun Jackson

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u/EmperorPeriwinkle Raptors Sep 21 '22 edited Sep 21 '22

I've got bad news for you about the world outside of upper income predominately white urban areas in english speaking countries.

Edit: sometimes the truth sucks but its still true, pretending it isn't the case doesn't help anyone, just makes matters worse.

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u/sersleepsalot1 Sep 20 '22 edited Sep 20 '22

Before all the "That is nothing to him" "that's it!" "Pocket change" comments...

Maximum fine is $50k... and they can't suspend him for this. It's not a violent event or a criminal case like Bridges.

It's just an idiotic comment from a fucking homophobic idiot who should have known better. But this "punishment" will follow him for years like Kyrie's comments did. He will have a homophobe sticker on his forehead for years to come. Won't make much of a difference to his earnings so that's that.

But he should do what Meyers Leanord did and learn about the culture and people by going among them. Learn what they go through their daily life. And Silver can't make him do that.

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u/TheOneWhosCensored Celtics Sep 20 '22

Max fine is 50k, which was given to other players. And Leonard was suspended for his comment.

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u/sersleepsalot1 Sep 20 '22

Miami suspended him. Guess it's on minni to do that.

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u/Classics22 Trail Blazers Sep 20 '22

Lol why can’t they suspend him? They suspended Leonard for a week for (imo) a lesser offense

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u/online_predator [ATL] Dennis Schroder Sep 20 '22

I dont believe the league suspended him. The heat suspended him from team activities for 1 week...while he was already injured so he didn't miss any game checks and the suspension basically was meaningless.

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u/Prince_of_DeaTh Japan Sep 20 '22

whoa he will surely learn now

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u/sgandylau Trail Blazers Sep 21 '22

the fuck use is that. just fuck off with this slaps on the wrist already

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u/Asking4Afren Knicks Sep 21 '22

I'm surprised the fines aren't more considering how much they make

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u/TheNotoriousJN Timberwolves Sep 20 '22 edited Sep 20 '22

Why is that seen as less egregious than what Meyers Leonard did? Be consistent. Im not looking to crucify the guy but there's no consistency there. Hell its less than KD got

I hope he feels guilt, I hope he goes to improve himself, I hope he does involve himself in the LGBT community and causes and I hope he takes the grilling the media will give him next month.

He doesnt need cancelling. But he absolutely needs to do better and show meaningful desire to do better

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u/celj1234 Sep 20 '22

This won’t get brought up next month

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u/TheNotoriousJN Timberwolves Sep 20 '22

We have a gay member of our beat squad. It absolutely will, he has already said so and our beat reporters have said they will also pressure him on it

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u/celj1234 Sep 20 '22

“I’m moving on and continue to grow as a person”

“Next question”

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u/Smellmyhand [SAS] Devin Brown Sep 20 '22

This and flash that smile, people will forget

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u/OkayThatsKindaCool Lakers Sep 21 '22

You want it to happen but if people were gonna forget they would have by now.

It’s been almost two weeks already.

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u/Smellmyhand [SAS] Devin Brown Sep 21 '22

lmao.

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u/OkayThatsKindaCool Lakers Sep 21 '22

How long is social medias memory? I think it’s about a day for most viral things.

Most comments on Anthony Edward highlights will be shitty jokes about how he’s homophobic. Mark my words.

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u/zmajxdd2 Sep 20 '22

Ultimately Ant is the future of this team, the team will fold.

Also Dane has said on a previous podcast that the homophobic language Ant used is quite commonly heard in the locker room so Kyle must have been completely out of the loop if this is the first time as a beat reporter he's heard someone on the Wolves use it.

There's a reason there arent cameras in the locker room like a reality TV show because the entire league would be cancelled by Twitter

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u/GuyInTheSkuy Timberwolves Sep 20 '22

Out of curiosity, which member? I read and listen to a lot of the guys, but never knew that.

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u/TheNotoriousJN Timberwolves Sep 20 '22

Chris Hine

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u/drjisftw Pacers Sep 20 '22

Not at risk for sounding like a bigot, but I wonder if the anti-semitic remarks hit harder in a league with a Jewish commissioner and several Jewish owners.

Also Meyers Leonard was an expendable role player, Ant is a rising star and homophobia within the Black community is a known thing.

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u/Hubey808 Trail Blazers Sep 20 '22

That's just bias then. Not consistency.

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u/allknowerofknowing Bulls Sep 20 '22

South Florida has a lot of jewish folks as well

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u/LBCdazin Clippers Sep 20 '22

I highly doubt it, judging off the NFL. Multiple players have tweeted anti-semitic things with no consequences.

A segment of the Black community also has an anti-semitic problem as well. Way too many dumbasses follow Louis Farrakhan, including prominent athletes. Dude is just full of hate and people still listen to his shitty, hateful opinions. I think he following is getting smaller though, which is good.

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u/watabadidea Toronto Huskies Sep 21 '22

A segment of the Black community also has an anti-semitic problem as well.

Crazy. It's almost like bigotry and hate of out-groups is a human tendency as opposed to something that originated with white males.

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u/TrustmeIII Sep 20 '22

Because Anthony Edwards is a star lol He will most definitely not feel any guilt. His apology was the basic PR damage control apology.

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u/justiceway1 Celtics Sep 20 '22

You guys are living in a different world if you actually believe that shit.

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u/Eduar103 Lakers Sep 20 '22

Gets me every time, even if he does said services what makes it genuine? I wouldn’t buy it for a second, all lip service and virtue signaling.

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u/watabadidea Toronto Huskies Sep 21 '22

Well I think we should be upfront about what are realistic goals.

Yeah, the hope is that outreach and engagement with the impacted community will cause the person to actually grow as an individual and a human. However, realistically, I'll settle for them feeling so inconvenienced that they decide it is easier to just keep their hateful thoughts out of the workplace and public sphere.

It isn't ideal, but often times convincing people to keep their hatred and home and not spread it to others is the best you are going to get.

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u/question2552 Sep 20 '22

But some punishment should be in place find?

Like we can’t handwave this as “welp, this guy fucking hates the gays, nothing we can do about it lolol”

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u/sersleepsalot1 Sep 20 '22

Yes. He has to the Meyers leanord road to learn, to empathize with the community. But Silver can't make him do it. Like he didn't make Meyers to do that. He did that to himself.

People here thinking that Silver kicked Leanord out of the league. He did not. His teams did, because he wasn't that of a good player. Teams won't do that to Ant... Hence he has to take steps himself.

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u/DaymanIsGod Raptors Sep 20 '22

Not nearly enough.

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u/Bahamut727 Lakers Sep 20 '22

So like a normal person paying 50$? Oh and they’d be fired from their job

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u/cwesttheperson Pacers Sep 20 '22

I disagree most people won’t get fired from their job for IG stories. Most jobs don’t give a shit as long as you’re a good employee. Only big corps may care because optics

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u/cowboys5xsbs Slovenia Sep 20 '22

Bruh that's it

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u/48ozs Sep 20 '22

Whack.

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u/IceGeek Knicks Sep 20 '22

Told y’all he wasn’t losing any endorsement deals or real money. They do not care

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u/minnesota_sports_fml Timberwolves Sep 20 '22

I guess my question is to the people who say this isn’t enough or a slap on the wrist.

What punishment would you like to have seen? More money? Suspended games?

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u/TheOneWhosCensored Celtics Sep 20 '22

Suspension. If Myles Leonard got a week suspension and 50k, there’s no reason Ant should get 0 time and 40k.

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u/Kevinar Knicks Sep 20 '22

Didn't the Heat suspend Leonard? Not the NBA? I forget what happened there

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u/VapeErrday [MIL] Giannis Antetokounmpo Sep 21 '22

You are correct. It was the Heat that suspended him so can’t be comparing these situations

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u/Quom Australia Sep 21 '22 edited Sep 21 '22

As a gay guy some more discussion of it at least.

Perhaps I've just missed it and I get it's the offseason, but it felt like Meyers Leonard (who was far less of a star) got a lot more airtime and people talking about it. I don't think anyone besides KAJ (and now Aaron Gordon I guess) have said a word about it.

By which I mean that it kind of feels like an implicit endorsement of his behaviour. I don't expect people or teammates to torch him, but it feels like the entire league has just ignored it and then quietly handed out a fine.

Plus I dunno, like to me this whole thing is incredibly fucked up. This wasn't an insult aimed at some random person or just a word. He pulled over specifically to film a group of people he didn't even know and said 'what's the world came to' with what sounds like a tone of disgust. It's weird because even on here I've seen people say it's him saying 'queer' that's the issue, it isn't.

Edit. The impact of some random person calling me a faggot as a random insult is much less than the impact of this video. People can say faggot without hating LGBTQIA+ people, but you don't make and release this video unless you really don't like LGBTQIA+ people and feel as if the majority also do (or should).

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u/mylanguage Knicks Sep 21 '22

While all this is true. I think Meyes Leonard's case was a bigger deal because a lot of the people he offended are in and around the NBA in big numbers.

Whereas, while I'm sure there's a lot more representatives of the LGBTQ community in the NBA than we may even know, it's not as prevalent or as widespread, public. So the response is muted.

Any group will always react MORE to their own than others.

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u/DorienG Lakers Sep 21 '22

They’ve been playing in sneakers made by kids in sweatshops, but now you care about damaging a community over some stupid shit a kid says 😂

Fucking clown show this is that 40k for saying dumb shit isn’t enough.

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u/Produceher Warriors Sep 21 '22

Suspended games?

Yes. This way the fans are 100% aware of the situation and the player has to sit in it and let down his teammates. The money can never be high enough because it's never going to be a deterrant.

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u/Kajisan9 Raptors Sep 20 '22

Game suspension, for sure. Cause suspension affects the money and the team. When you are making so much, letting your team down will affect the player a lot more than just straight cash.

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u/Nicechicken8032 Warriors Sep 20 '22

Does Ja Morant relying to fans on Twitter about its your Hoe’s job to ride his dick and catching hollow points not fall under the category of offensive and derogatory language on social media?

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u/NHP1994 Knicks Sep 20 '22

No bc he didn’t target a specific audience, he pretty much said anyone can get these hollow points.

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u/DaymanIsGod Raptors Sep 20 '22

Yes and both should have been fined stronger

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u/kingjuicepouch Bulls Sep 20 '22

Fines like these are so performative. Edwards made eleven million dollars last year, 40k is nothing to him. Either make these punishments matter or don't bother with slaps on the wrist. Imo, anyway

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u/AndrewMonck Clippers Sep 21 '22

That sure showed him, bet he will think twice before he signs his 150 mil max soon

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u/jesuisFLUB Timberwolves Sep 21 '22

Wild time to be a gay wolves fan

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u/motorboat_mcgee Lakers Sep 21 '22

Pocket change for the wealthy

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u/allknowerofknowing Bulls Sep 20 '22

curious how people react to this vs. sarver? Not saying they are the same and its close to the level of what sarver did, cuz its not, but no players have commented on this of course and I am sure none of them will and most could care less

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u/online_predator [ATL] Dennis Schroder Sep 20 '22

If they're not the same thing and not comparable then why reference them? It's just a false equivalence.

But to answer your question, I'd bet the majority of NBA players probably don't care either direction (that what he said was no big deal or that he should be punished more) . I'm sure some do, but those are probably in the minority

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u/thebeard1017 Raptors Sep 21 '22

Reminds me of when (I think) Stephen Jackson came out with some anti-Semitism and similar reaction from the players.

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u/MrChicken23 Raptors Sep 20 '22

The reality is that what Sarver did is more personal to the players than what Ant did so they care a lot more about that.

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u/RobbobertoBuii Knicks Sep 20 '22 edited Sep 20 '22

welp just a slap on the wrist

edit: damn all the timberpup fans really love downvoting any anti-Minnesote comments 🤣

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u/A47Cabin Timberwolves Sep 20 '22

Bro, did you seriously just misspelled Minnesota?

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u/TheRealStringerBell :yc-1: Yacht Club Sep 21 '22

I don't really care but it's funny that the players want to full on cancel people while at the same time having clauses where the worst thing that can happen to them is they lose a couple % of their yearly salary.

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u/scourgescorched Sep 20 '22

nba should fine itself for continuing to support china

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u/1Tims NBA Sep 20 '22

Are you going to fine urself ?

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u/durklil Magic Sep 20 '22

Performative

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u/sersleepsalot1 Sep 20 '22

Well, if that's the case, the whole country should be fined. what type of phone or laptop do you have? 70 percent chances they are made in china, so maybe you should be fined too?

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u/akkaneko11 Warriors Sep 20 '22

It's not even that because the NBA isn't even made in China. The question is, which companies offer products in China? The answer is all of them unless they're banned by the CCP.

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u/kozy8805 Sep 20 '22

It is shocking that a league with plenty of homophobic comments from its biggest stars is always strangely quiet about it.

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u/ACCBAN4TRUTHTELLING Hornets Sep 20 '22

Frankly, I don’t think fining someone is the best way to educate them on changing their perspective. Growing up, using homophobic slurs was very commonplace where I’m from. It wasn’t till I grew up I bit, left home, and met different people that I realized the poor taste of such language. I think ANT needs to just meet the people who his language affects, and learn how it negatively impact others. People especially someone as young as ANT can learn and become better from this.

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