r/politics Dec 01 '22 Gold 1 All-Seeing Upvote 1

Colorado elections officials formally order recount in race between Lauren Boebert and Adam Frisch

https://coloradosun.com/2022/11/30/lauren-boebert-adam-frisch-recount-colorado-begins/?mc_cid=c70bd94e5f&mc_eid=9d73313837
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u/SignificantTrout Dec 01 '22

Just FYI it is a mandatory recount as required by state law due to the margin. It is not expected to change the results.

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u/Th3MadCreator Georgia Dec 01 '22 edited Dec 01 '22

It'll likely change rectify some of the votes, but probably not enough to flip the election, unfortunately. A recount flipped a state house election in favor of the Democratic candidate by 1 vote this year.

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u/MFoy Virginia Dec 01 '22

A few years ago, the Virginia house of delegates came down to drawing lots.

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u/ceezr Dec 01 '22

That's wild. They literally picked a name out of hat. Might as well flip a coin, or see if a groundhog sees his shadow

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u/CaBBaGe_isLaND Dec 01 '22

There was literally a coin toss election a few years ago IIRC.

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u/stormfall1125 Dec 01 '22

There was literally 2 this year in kentucky for low level positions due to dead ties.

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u/CaBBaGe_isLaND Dec 01 '22

In Georgia we just have every election twice so that Republicans can have a second chance to pick up the Libertarian vote.

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u/SlumdogSkillionaire Dec 01 '22

In Arizona you just spend a year looking for bamboo fibers in the ballots to justify throwing out the results you don't like.

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u/-Ahab- Dec 01 '22

Of all the worlds we could have created, some group of assholes consciously chose this one.

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u/BadaBina Texas Dec 02 '22

We could be so great.

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u/ceezr Dec 01 '22

lol never change, America. Or better yet, do change. idk anymore

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u/Tobeck Georgia Dec 01 '22

we should def change...

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '22

Fun, sorta related fact: in the US military, in any group of people, there’s someone who is senior in rank. If you have two people who are the same “level,” the one who is higher in rank is determined by the date they entered that level. If they happen to share the same date of obtaining that level, you then use the date they joined the military. If that date is the same, you use birthdate…the older one is higher in rank. In the unlikely, but technically possible, event that they have the same birthday, you use their SSN. The lower number is senior in rank. At that point you might as well draw straws.

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u/Reverse2057 California Dec 02 '22

I feel like if a person's tie was that close to have to choose the lower SSN those two people are legally required to marry one another. They're basically the same person at that point, just different versions.

As an aside, I wonder how many people have existed in this scenario for this line of digging to have to go so far to reach SSN to find out who is the senior.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '22

It probably has never happened. But I think it’s neat they took the time to plan for that contingency.

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u/Mantipath Dec 01 '22

In Nevada the preferred method is high card draw on a shuffled duck.

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u/ArvinaDystopia Foreign Dec 02 '22

Is the duck sedated for the procedure?

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u/ObligatoryOption Dec 01 '22

Whatever happened to hand-to-hand combat?

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '22 edited Dec 17 '22

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u/Aggraphine Michigan Dec 01 '22

If your vote didn't matter, they wouldn't try so goddamn hard to take it away from you or dilute its worth.

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u/TankGirlwrx Connecticut Dec 01 '22

Not sure if you're referring to the CT district 81 election, but the Dem was ahead by 6, then in the recount the R gained 5 more votes, so the D still won, but only by one vote. But I think of this every time I see recounts happening because you really never know.

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u/THIS_Assassin Dec 01 '22

Solid proof that a single vote COUNTS.

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u/TheManAccount Dec 01 '22 edited Dec 01 '22 Helpful

/r/Conservative: why are democrats forcing a recount?! They are trying to rig the election. We need election DAY not election month

Also /r/Conservative: every election should be audited to ensure there is no fraud. What are Democrats afraid of.

Edit: woke up from a nap to find that this blew up. I’m sorry for the jokes that I’ve made.

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '22

Also /r/Conservative:

"Waiting in line to vote for 4 hours in urban areas is not disenfranchisement."

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u/readzalot1 Dec 01 '22

But having to wait two hours in a red district is.

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u/davekingofrock Wisconsin Dec 01 '22 Bravo!

Or having to press "1" for English.

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u/Michael_Blurry Dec 01 '22

Let’s change it to “press 2” so Spanish is first and watch their heads explode.

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u/selflessrebel Dec 01 '22

Please press arabic numeral 1 for spanish and arabic numeral 2 for english.

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u/ColeProtoco1 Dec 01 '22

1) Place a large group of r/Conservative users in a room with a pipe from the room to a turbine 2) Play this message on repeat, ignoring the users’ choice, always defaulting to Spanish. 3) Group gets angry, cartoonishly emitting steam 4) Perpetual energy achieved

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u/aspidities_87 Oregon Dec 01 '22

When winter comes around we’ll play them videos of drag queens reading to children. Should solve our dependence on foreign oil in about….six minutes.

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u/ColeProtoco1 Dec 01 '22

Tell them we know of one school that’s still teaching CRT! They show up to investigate and turns out the kids are taking an electronics class, they’re deconstructing old-ass TVs. A reporter is assigned to cover the story and you can just see the disdain in their face like “I went to college….for this.” So much steam.

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u/HotPinkLollyWimple Dec 01 '22

I think you may have solved the looming climate change disaster. Cole for President!

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u/Pnemonic Dec 01 '22

Big Energy has entered the chat

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u/theghostmachine Dec 01 '22

"Oh my god the robot lady on the phone is a terrorist!"

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u/destronger California Dec 01 '22

bloody hell. i would love this.

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u/valleyman02 Dec 01 '22

That's an infringement on my right to be a racist. /s then argue until the sun goes down that it's not racist to be racist.

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u/Super_Exaggerated Dec 01 '22

then argue until the sun goes down that it's not racist to be racist.

Then they insist that you leave because it's a sundown town.

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u/valleyman02 Dec 01 '22

Exactly. They have no interest in learning how not to be racist. They're basic argument is it's my right to be racist.

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u/Super_Exaggerated Dec 01 '22

It's all the heritage some people have. It's pathetic, but they cling to it. They have nothing else.

They don't deserve any respect.

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u/PossessedToSkate Dec 01 '22

they cling to it. They have nothing else.

Well, except for the bibles and guns.

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u/Jafooki Dec 01 '22

They want to be racist but they don't want to be called racist

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u/UsedEntertainment244 Dec 01 '22

And conversely that you are being racist against white people for being anti racism.

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u/peppelaar-media Dec 01 '22

Yeah that’s not how racism works but what other argument can you expect from a self proclaimed racist

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u/UsedEntertainment244 Dec 01 '22

Lol yeah ,it doesn't register to them that you would defend them as well if they were the target of racism.

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u/brianbrianbrian Dec 01 '22

The cashier told me happy holidays! Why am I always being attacked!!!

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u/Nightmare_Tonic Dec 01 '22

Fuckin lolled

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u/Larsaf Dec 01 '22

You mean for American!

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '22

"If American was good enough for Jesus it's good enough for me!"

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '22

"I'm being repressed over here!!!"

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u/aspidities_87 Oregon Dec 01 '22

Now you see the violence inherent in the system!

BLM folks cheer

NO NOT THAT SYSTEMIC VIOLENCE

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u/MrVilliam Dec 01 '22

Their argument is always "that's because we have jobs" and they don't understand what a racist dog whistle that statement is because they just thoughtlessly repeat what they hear on fox news.

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u/Medium-Complaint-677 Dec 01 '22

Also I only have two conservative friends - one is a door dash driver and one is chronically unemployed.

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u/SavingsCheck7978 Ohio Dec 01 '22
Lol same, one can't hold a job because he flys off the handle at everything. It's the same every time he gets the job it's the best thing ever he is going to make them so much money and will run the place by next year the owner is practically eating out of his hand, usually gets fired with in two months, or rage quits when some one says he did something wrong then asks if I can get him a job at my place (which requires specific licenses in my trade for the money he wants to make) what's wild is we used to work at an auto dealership almost twenty years ago and he was the same exact way. 

Second guy is really my brother in law, can never hold a job, has absolutely committed welfare fraud multiple times and just spends all day on Facebook complaining about black people on welfare and lurking in the battered women pages looking for a date. The last part I can't even begin to understand.

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u/taggospreme Dec 01 '22

that last bit about the battered woman pages sounds very predatory. He knows what he's doing. Maybe he's looking for someone who will put up with his shit. A woman to abuse so he can finally feel like a powerful man (in his mind only) because he gets dumped on and dunked on constantly by people who know he's a piece of shit

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u/Geng1Xin1 Massachusetts Dec 01 '22

Are we related? You just described my uncle, a racist Oklahoman who had rage issues and two pistols he named "Bill" and "Hillary" for some reason. He constantly changed jobs due to workplace conflict and was banned from many work sites for threatening people. He killed himself 25 years ago after making sexual advances towards a female intern. His obituary described him as a "family man" and a "good christian."

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u/mooimafish3 Dec 01 '22

Oddly everyone I've ever known who lives off disability was conservative

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u/T-Minus9 Dec 01 '22

Was?

Not sure if a "Sorry for your loss" or a "glad their health improved" is in order.

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u/Rayne2522 Dec 01 '22

I am a far left liberal and I am on disability because I am disabled. Sometimes you're just disabled and you have to take what is available to you, that's not right or left. Unfortunately the hypocrisy of the right is the reason why it's even a question of who is on disability and who isn't.

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u/imbornwell Dec 01 '22

You would think that they would know already to pull up their bootstraps and take care of everything by themselves🤔

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u/WorkPlacePooper2 Dec 01 '22

I thought they were stealing our jobs

Or are they lazy

Or are they just hateful bigots?

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u/kymri Dec 01 '22

In fairness, that is disenfranchisement - even if a little less painful than the 4 hour wait. No one in any district should have to wait more than 15-20 minutes, tops. The whole point of precincts and different voting locations is to spread the load out.

Of course, if you aren't on board with encouraging maximum turnout, it's easy to trim the funding for this stuff.

Honestly, we ought to make voting both mandatory (as long as a 'none of the above' or 'abstain' option is made available) and as easy as possible, but that would threaten the status quo.

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u/Capital_Awareness_87 Dec 01 '22

Also /r/conservative

Voting machines cannot be trusted only hand counts and paper ballots.

Also /r/conservative

I remember when we had election night not election month. It's ridiculous it takes so long to count votes.

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u/stanthebat Dec 01 '22

only hand counts and paper ballots.

Unless they're mail ballots, which are a sign of the End Times.

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u/a_pinch_of_sarcasm Dec 01 '22

You mean don't allow each state to decide its own election laws so that every state completes their election counts at the same time? Like a federal election law?

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u/1Eternallylost Michigan Dec 01 '22

Also r/Conservative:

So what if we imposed stricter rules for registration on poor, mostly black districts than we did with rural, mostly wealthy districts. It's still not disenfranchisement.

Also r/Conservative: Racism doesn't exist anymore. And if it did, it's against us white people.

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u/Roflattack Dec 01 '22

Don't forget it's now illegal to hand out water to those waiting in line to vote. At least in Texas it is and it's stupid.

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u/gsr142 Dec 01 '22

In Georgia it's a felony.

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u/Dicksapoppin69 Dec 01 '22

Also Conservatives, "There were some registered republican voters not able to vote because they had to wait in line for 4 hours and the polls closed. Why would the democrats allow us to close all the other polling places and ban most mail-in ballots? Clearly a conspiracy."

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u/bcorm11 Dec 01 '22

Weren't they the ones trying to stop the rule that as long as you're in line to vote before closing time you get to vote? Asking for a friend.

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u/evolve555 Dec 01 '22

But having to wait in line at Chipotle for 2 minutes without access to an AR-15 is tyranny.

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u/Skadwick Georgia Dec 01 '22

Everyone knows Chipotle is MS13 territory

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u/redneckrockuhtree Dec 01 '22

Also /r/Conservative

"There's nothing wrong with making it illegal to provide food or water to people waiting in line to vote"

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u/Obscure_Occultist Dec 01 '22

Also r/conservative

"Theres absolutely nothing wrong with State governors having complete control over how elections are conducted in their state. Any federal supervision is government overreach!"

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u/xavariel Canada Dec 01 '22

What even was the reasoning behind this morally corrupt law? The fear of garbage being littered if people ate lunch in line? I mean, aren't there already garbage bins nearby events like this, where lots of humans will be publically converging, anyway? Makes no sense. And people are like, "I want more of that!" when voting republican.

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u/darkphoenixff4 Canada Dec 01 '22

The official expanation is that food and water are "political contributions" that might "sway voters to vote for a specific candidate" and thus shouldn't be allowed. It's bullshit, but what else is new?

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u/FunstuffQC Dec 01 '22

Ugh. I hate that it has come to that.

/r/actualconspiracies I think is the new one

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u/PossessedToSkate Dec 01 '22

Nearly any sub with Actual in the name is a racist cesspool.

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u/PMUrAnus Dec 01 '22

Also r/Conservative:

“Waiting in line to vote in Arizonabut not anywhere else due to republican-designed voting restrictions is proof of voter disenfranchisement and fraudulent elections”

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u/jodax00 Dec 01 '22

Remember when they were simultaneously saying to keep counting all the votes in some states and shouting "stop the count" in others?

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u/tearsonurcheek Dec 01 '22

And for the same exact reason.

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u/zoicyte Dec 01 '22

well, yeah. they wanted to keep counting the votes for trump and stop counting the rest!

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u/NoDesinformatziya Dec 01 '22

"Waiting 12 minutes in 65 degree sunny weather is literally death, but those Dems waiting on a 7 block line in the snow (when their polling locations were selectively closed by a Republican state) had it coming and are just a bunch of whiners!"

Having had to wait 4 hours in the snow before, that shit sucks even if you're lucky enough to be able to take time off for it. I certainly considered leaving, and about a third of the line did leave, eventually. Mostly disabled and older folks who couldn't properly stand that long and keep warm. That's disenfranchisement.

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u/windingtime Dec 01 '22 Silver

Also /r/Conservative:

This glue is fucking delicious.

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u/AssumeItsSarcastic Dec 01 '22

Fun fact, our Founders had an election month as did every American until 1848.

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u/ThailurCorp Dec 01 '22

Not every American*

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u/audiate Dec 01 '22

Conservatives: heavy breathing

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u/MOOShoooooo Indiana Dec 01 '22

Takes another bite of My Pillow

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u/ell0bo Dec 01 '22

Conservatives would claim to be against that while secretly all for it.

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u/Vio_ Dec 01 '22

Secretly?

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u/Arkhangelzk Dec 01 '22

No one said they were good at keeping secrets

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u/Stepjamm Dec 01 '22

Yeah especially when it’s written all over their hat

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u/BankshotMcG Dec 01 '22

Ooh, Daddy, I've been bad. I stormed the Capitol. Tell me you didn't secretly want me to do it?

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u/HootieHoo4you Dec 01 '22

This made me laugh too hard lol

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u/FutureComplaint Virginia Dec 01 '22 edited Dec 01 '22

I would say at least 3/5s of every American

Edit: Ya'll are bad at jokes. 3/5 compromise

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u/progtastical Dec 01 '22

You're forgetting about women, who were denied the right to vote until 1919.

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u/blaqkaudioxd Dec 01 '22

And Indigenous peoples weren't citizens until the 1920s and didn't get the right to vote until the 70s

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u/moonknlght Dec 01 '22

Why didn't they just go back to their own country and vote! /s

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u/PANSIES_FOR_ALL Virginia Dec 01 '22

19th Amendment wasn’t ratified until 1920 actually.

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u/DizzyedUpGirl Dec 01 '22

I think that's why my grandmother was such a big stickler on voting and having me and my sisters registered to vote even though two of us decided to vote in a way different than her. She told me she knew I was going to vote liberal, but she didn't care, as long as I voted. Cause she was born in 1917, so when she came of age, women voting was still new and many people scoffed at it.

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u/ThailurCorp Dec 01 '22

Women still couldn't vote, so it was a very small comparative portion that could. Maybe 2/5ths, but I see what you did there.

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u/progtastical Dec 01 '22

*every white male American

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u/dbkenny426 Dec 01 '22

Who owned land.

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u/fujiman Dec 01 '22

And no greasy I-talians or any of those spud-sucking Irish Catholics either!!! This is AMERKA!

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u/newtizzle Dec 01 '22 Silver

Uh, excuse me, but I was told to call my doctor if my election lasted longer than 4 hours

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u/ioncloud9 South Carolina Dec 01 '22

They want the election + count + recount to last 1 24 hour day. If any of it takes longer than that, its evidence of fraud or foul play.

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u/Doright36 Dec 01 '22

They want elections that always show their person won a landslide. Everything else is evidence of fraud or foul play.

Funny enough lady mindless here will take an election she barely won and go around bragging about having the will of the people behind her.

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u/kracov Dec 01 '22

Democrats existing gives the Republicans something to campaign on.

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u/twesterm Texas Dec 01 '22

It's actually fun if not a bit depressing to ask a conservative what their favorite candidates platform is without mentioning the other side. They literally cannot do it without admitting to blatant racism and blatant screwing over everyone who isn't rich.

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '22

I honestly think they don't believe in anything anymore except: "I want to kill them." Or at least they're rapidly approaching that point.

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u/sorenthestoryteller Dec 01 '22 edited Dec 01 '22

I don't have the emotional energy the check that subreddit.

If ANYTHING helps a moderate or liberal they are going to have a meltdown, so I really don't care what they think or do.

Conservatism has never been about Democracy, it's about preserving and eventually reversing the status quo, so fuck them and fuck wasting what little energy I have being outraged at people whose only goal in life is to behave as adult toddlers.

Edit - For those who have seen 'What We Do In The Shadows," the more egregious Republicans/Conservatives are Colin Robinson/psychic vampires. They feed off of causing people pain and misery. I HAVE met some Democrats/liberals are this way, but I will state in a very non-scientific manner that it's mostly conservatives that tend towards psychic vampirisim.

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u/cuteintern New York Dec 01 '22

Yup, this is less Breaking News and more Process Working As Intended.

Which these days, is still kind of news, I guess?

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u/Schiffy94 New York Dec 01 '22

There was a lawsuit to stop a state mandated recount filed by the person who was ahead by five hundred votes going in.

Little SCOTUS ruling called Bush v. Gore.

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u/Greersome Dec 01 '22

Yup. Bilbert will end on top. Don't expect any cries of rampant voter fraud from republicans.

This "SHOULD" shut them up forever. After all, if dems had such powers, don't you think they would OWN the house by now?

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u/whatshamilton Dec 01 '22

Forever? Absolutely not, it will shut them up til their next loss. If dems were rigging the 2020 election we wouldn’t have had the slimmest margin ever in the house and a tie in the senate which was effectively not a majority because of Manchin and Sinema.

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u/DrManhattan_DDM Florida Dec 01 '22

This won’t even shut them up until tomorrow. The problem with the perpetual anger machine is that it must continually be refueled.

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u/sbrooks84 Dec 01 '22

Tyranny takes constant effort because it is unnatural

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u/colinsncrunner Dec 01 '22

This is really what drove me nuts. I was having a dialogue with a friend about this. So the Dems have the smarts to rig the election illegally. But they don't have the smarts to win it with enough power to actually DO anything? He was just flabbergasted that here in Wisconsin a bunch of conservatives won, but Trump didn't.

"So you're saying there were conservatives who didn't vote for Trump?!"
"Yes! That's exactly what I'm saying!"
"That's not possible"

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u/trivialgroup Colorado Dec 01 '22

I can only imagine the cries of fraud that would have come from the MAGAs if Boebert had lost. Tina Peters was the Republican County Clerk for bright-red Mesa County, one of the biggest in the district. Democratic Secretary of State Jena Griswold had to remove Peters from that post because Peters improperly handled and granted access to voting machines. Peters has now been indicted for a bunch of felonies related to that.

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u/todas-las-flores Dec 01 '22

I hope they don't find any evidence of wonton voting in the recount.

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u/gusterfell Dec 01 '22

Just don't give any potstickers to the people in line. That's rigging the election, at least in Georgia.

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u/NightlyWry Dec 01 '22

Too bad. Potstickers are amazing. Mmmm

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u/SasparillaTango Dec 01 '22

How is this shit so close all over the country. I'll never understand

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u/TankGirlwrx Connecticut Dec 01 '22

Gerrymandering

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u/kescusay Oregon Dec 01 '22

That and the fact that rural America has been systematically dismantling its educational apparatus for decades. It's a recipe for small, rural towns that think they're hot shit because they've never seen what a well-run city actually looks like.

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u/gusterfell Dec 01 '22

"I love the poorly educated."

-some Republican. I think he was running for town solicitor or something.

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u/Cooptroop88 Dec 01 '22

Meanwhile, the Poorly Educated: “Aw he loves us”

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u/LuckyBahamut Dec 01 '22

More like village idiot

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u/Telefundo Dec 01 '22

Op already covered that.

some Republican

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u/donkeyrocket Dec 01 '22 edited Dec 01 '22

It was Donald Trump in 2016 while speaking to supporters in Nevada. Might have missed your sarcasm.

For context:

Afterwards, in a speech to supporters, Trump touted how many different demographic groups he won in Nevada, declaring that "We won the evangelicals. We won with young. We won with old. We won with highly educated. We won with poorly educated," before exclaiming "I love the poorly educated!"

Certainly not the first or only politician to tout that but a recent example. I do recall there was someone who made the remark meaning poorly educated are great for Republicans specifically.

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u/enchiladanada Dec 01 '22

So just as they said, some solicitor or something. Nobody important

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u/Bockto678 Dec 01 '22

These people are literally weirded out by pedestrians.

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u/SomeCalcium New Hampshire Dec 01 '22

Colorado isn't gerrymandered. It has independent redistricting.

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u/trivialgroup Colorado Dec 01 '22

Yep, and that's new this cycle. In fact, it's the nonpartisan redistricting that led to close races. If not for that, Dems could have engineered a solid-R district on the eastern plains and another on the Western Slope, with the other 6 being solid D.

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u/OffalSmorgasbord Dec 01 '22

Millions spent in analytics and exceptionally well done social media targeting through groups similar to Cambridge Analytics. They can get so granular with their social media targeting. It's like identifying the 6 GOP'ers on the same block with the same message and then walking five other neighbors toward them with targeted messaging.

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u/djfudgebar Dec 01 '22

Is she publicly complaining about it yet?

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u/pdzulu Dec 01 '22

Boebert will win by 500 votes and spend 2 years describing her blowout victory in a district that obviously loves her

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u/gusterfell Dec 01 '22

While simultaneously crying voter fraud because "there's no way it was actually that close!"

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u/LunarTaxi Dec 01 '22

“A landslide”

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u/ShainRules Dec 01 '22

I can't decide what's more depressing. MTG's actual blowout victory, or knowing Boebert could have been gone if the equivalent population of my high school graduating class voted differently.

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u/ProgressiveSnark2 Dec 01 '22 edited Dec 01 '22

Definitely Boebert’s win is more depressing.

Folks on Resistance Twitter really need to come to accept the fact that MTG is doing her job accurately: she’s representing the views of her constituents. But she is just one crazy representative, and American history is littered with all sorts of racist, crazy, conspiratorial doofuses elected to Congress because a constituency with many bigoted loons wanted to elevate that crap.

There will always be MTGs. We have to do our best to not get thrown off by them and instead focus on what we can control: defeating the Boeberts, the Joe Kents, the J. R. Majewskis—far right politicians who are at odds with their voters. And there are a lot of them across America. There are likely people like them elected in your region, perhaps more subtle and quiet, but still there. Focus on defeating them.

For example, to anyone in Southern California, we have three far-right congressmembers who are in competitive districts and who do a bunch of BS every election cycle to lie to voters and make themselves seem “moderate”: Mike Garcia, Michelle Steel, and Ken Calvert. Folks in the LA area need to worry more about them and a lot less about MTG. 2024 will likely have a much better political climate in California than 2022, so all 3 could be defeated if people drew attention to them.

Edit: Young Kim is another one in SoCal who, while less extreme in some ways compared to the other three, is still very conservative and in a district whose constituents voted for Biden.

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u/JasJ002 Dec 01 '22

Do you think she'll go the orange route and print maps to hand out to people?

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u/verygoodchoices Dec 01 '22

I won by such a huge blowout margin that not even all the illegal immigrants mail in votes in the world could beat me! The people - the REAL people - of Colorado have spoken!

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u/RicardoMultiball Kansas Dec 01 '22

Recounts rarely shift the margin in a race beyond a few votes, which is why Frisch conceded in the closer-than-expected contest.

Adam Frisch showed dignity in defeat, still gets a recount he didnt ask for (though it was his right).

Meanwhile, Bobblehead has to re-live this close shave...and a few District 3 residents get a reminder that if they'd just show up on election day they could rid themselves of their clout-chasing embarrassment of a representative.

Oh the absolute chaos that would ensue if the recount flipped the election...🤣

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u/SuperstitiousPigeon5 Massachusetts Dec 01 '22 edited Dec 01 '22

It's a recount, it will show improperly counted votes, but not nearly enough. there are always some votes that are mishandled, or double counted, or some reason. They are handled by people and people make mistakes.

Still, it's the law. Everyone's vote should be counted correctly. No failed coup, no third party shady recount and 63 failed lawsuits.

Frisch lost, but I wouldn't want to be a Dem in that district who stayed home because "there was no chance he could win."

Edit: Change riot to failed coup.

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u/DrOddcat Dec 01 '22

I’ve been giving my brother and his wife crap because they moved out of that district in April. THEY COULD HAVE BEEN THE DIFFERENCE/s

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u/Deeliciousness Dec 01 '22

550 is an insanely small margin. One person could feasibly affect that many votes with some campaigning. It's becoming harder to justify the mentality of "my vote doesn't count."

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u/acemerrill Wisconsin Dec 01 '22

Yeah, I've helped do recounts and you would expect one or two votes per precinct to be adjusted. So not only would you need an unusual number of votes to be changed, but they would all have to shift in favor of Frisch, which would honestly make me raise an eyebrow if that were to happen.

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u/nealomg Dec 01 '22

If the recount flips the seat I will run naked down my street singing Ding Dong the Witch is Dead! And I don’t even live in Colorado.

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u/Hurly26 Dec 01 '22

Careful. You might expose yourself to minors which means Boebert might try and marry you.

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u/grungegoth Dec 01 '22

let us cross our fingers...

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u/BroMan-Z Dec 01 '22

Close shave or not she’s still in power and doesn’t give a shit about the margin. She got rewarded for her behavior and will be worse now. She’s got 2 more years of 6 figure salary, tons of vacation, and excellent healthcare.

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u/DashCat9 Massachusetts Dec 01 '22

Conservatives: "HE CONCEDED. NO TAKE-BACKSIES".

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u/pierre_x10 Dec 01 '22

Also Conservatives: "OUR GUY DOESN'T CONCEDE! WE DON'T CARE ABOUT OFFICIAL VOTE TALLIES"

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u/SecretDracula Dec 01 '22

Just curious, what is the law regarding take-backsies here?

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u/baylaust Canada Dec 01 '22

Concessions are just a formality, they aren't necessary to anything. It's a sign of good will and respect.

Which is why you're increasingly seeing so many MAGA politicians refuse to concede their losses.

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u/Inocain New York Dec 01 '22

I believe the law says nothing about the winner being decided by concession, only votes, making concession a purely symbolic gesture.

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u/DashCat9 Massachusetts Dec 01 '22

A concession isn't a legally binding declaration. You can concede an election, and then still win.

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u/StugDrazil Dec 01 '22

It’s really bizarre that Boebert has any support, especially after its well known her husband has exposed himself to little girls. But that must be ok with the Christian conservative MAGA QAnon GOP. Wow that’s a lot of words just to say dangerous individual

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u/tuba_man Dec 01 '22

It felt hypocritical to me until it hit me that most of what conservatives say & do is about power in one way or another. Every conservative double standard is simply a demonstration of who they think is supposed to be in charge

It's ok for him to abuse children because conservatives are supposed to have underlings and underlings are for being used however you want. With adult lessers, you can underpay them if you need their work or get them arrested if they're in the way. With children it's usually just conservative indoctrination but sometimes you get people like boebert's husband.

Meanwhile it's bad for queers to exist in a way that kids might learn it's ok to be gay, because queers are supposed to be on the bottom of the pecking order.

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u/SwordfishCyclones Dec 01 '22

Precisely.

I've worked in many corporate offices. It's no secret most America's CEOs are conservative.

Hang around them long enough and you'll quickly see that they maintain the same pecking order a fucking hick biker club do. It's why women are still treated as property in workplace.

Conservatives are all about exerting constant power so they feel they can control the things they do not like; rather than accept the idea that things go on in this world that is positively none of their fucking business.

This country and the world are filled with badass humans. White christian conservatives want to be in control of who gets recognition in this world and they are losing their goddamn minds that people are getting tired of their thinly veiled bullshit.

This is why conservative america is at war with the word 'woke' when nobody fucking is even using that word anymore in seriousness. The concept of 'wokeness' is basically white conservatives learning they've lost a big ascept of culture wars. They continue to saturate the word 'woke' in their campaign ads to give voters a Pavlovian call to arms.

They are still at war with that word because it's stripped them of so much power. However, I think the country has learned a lot abut itself after seeing so many of their grandma/grandpa go on racist conspiracy theory spewing rampages as they put their bank accounts on weekly donation-subscriptions to Trump and any other conservative politico fiending for power.

FUCK THE GOP

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u/sl8rfan2 Dec 01 '22

But if you are ok with sex ed in schools that is inclusive of LBGTQ themes, you're a pedophile groomer satanist that eats babies.

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u/Samuel-squantch Dec 01 '22

Why are conservative Americans so drawn to such objectively stupid people?

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u/jbird35 Dec 01 '22

I can’t believe people are dumb enough to vote for Boebert. Yikes.

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u/Ma02rc Florida Dec 01 '22

It’s either stupidity, hatred, or arrogance. Too stupid to see Boebert is bad, too hateful, or too arrogant to admit that they made the wrong choice.

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u/thirtynation Dec 01 '22

I came to a nearly identical conclusion about Trump a few years ago, but replace arrogance for greed. The only people supporting him are either just fucking morons, or hateful assholes, or neither but are greedy as fuck and think they stand to keep more of their money by voting for him. Often they possess more than one of those.

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u/LSDMTHCKET Dec 01 '22

Not just boebert.

Boebert (R)

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u/penguished Dec 01 '22 edited Dec 01 '22

Why did he concede if it's an automatic recount? He should be screaming "stop the steal!", stomping his feet, and defecating in the lobby of the capitol building. That's how normal people conduct themselves, right?

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u/imogen1983 Dec 01 '22

He refused the recount in order to not waste taxpayer money, because he knew it wouldn’t change the outcome. Can you imagine Boebert if she was the one who lost? She’d be calling for recount after recount and claiming fraud.

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u/bisforbenis Dec 01 '22

If I’m not mistaken, that didn’t happen. He just conceded saying a recount was very unlikely to change the results as an act of good faith, but I don’t believe there was any refusing of a recount since that’s not his call anyways

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u/peaceboner Dec 01 '22

“It has been the honor of a lifetime to spend the last several months traveling this district and meeting with the people of Western and Southern Colorado,” Frisch said. “While an automatic recount is on the horizon, we don’t expect the outcome to change. Historically, recounts in the state don’t change the results by more than a dozen votes because Colorado is the gold standard when it comes to elections. I called Congresswoman Boebert to concede this race because it is vital to our Democracy to trust and accept the results of our elections.

“It would be disingenuous and unethical for us, or any other group, to continue to raise false hope and to encourage fundraising for a recount,” Frisch said. “Colorado’s elections are safe, accurate, and secure. Please, save your money for your groceries, your rent, your children, and for other important causes and organizations."

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u/baguak4life Dec 01 '22

That made me chuckle

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u/Matts3sons Dec 01 '22

Maybe I'll register as a republican and act all bat shit insane to get myself voted in, then actually side with common sense when I vote for bills!

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u/carfo Dec 01 '22

wtf is wrong with this country where lauren fucking boebert got re elected. she has the IQ of a potato

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u/Eiffel-Tower777 Dec 01 '22

You're insulting potatoes.

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u/karmagod13000 Ohio Dec 01 '22

please god let her lose. it was the one race i kept my eye on all week and slowly turned around in her favor like a living nightmare.

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u/Minimum_Intention848 Dec 01 '22

Remember Boeberts district has had TWO incidents of Republicans attempting to tamper with elections and one of those incidents involved Boeberts campaign manager and the FBI got involved.

https://www.salon.com/2021/11/17/fbi-raids-home-of-lauren-boeberts-ex-campaign-manager-in-colorado-tampering-probe/

Would not be surprised if another Bo Bo scandal came out of this.

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u/timesuck47 Dec 01 '22 edited Dec 01 '22

I think I saw on the local/Denver news last night that there are new developments in that case, and two people have played guilty and are testifying against the campaign manager.

Edit: https://apnews.com/article/2022-midterm-elections-colorado-state-08f7bb8f0efcf78782262b77893790d1

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '22

Likely won't change the outcome, but there could be some Republicans voting for their dead spouses that turn up in the recount, they are the party of projection after all.

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u/Modal_Window Canada Dec 01 '22

True. They aren't validating though, just counting.

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u/PyreDruid Virginia Dec 01 '22

Almost certainly won’t change the outcome and those issues will not (and shouldn’t) be found in a recount which is literally just re counting the ballots.

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u/sarcastroll Dec 01 '22

Boebert is simply a reflection of the GOP voters of her district. She simply represents them. She represents their values, their morality, their decency, how much they value education and intelligence.

When you think Colorado GOP voters, think Boebert.

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u/umaumma Dec 01 '22

One person offered prayers to victims of gay club shooting. The other further added to their pain and tragedy by calling them groomers, and she wins. This country is sick.

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u/SuperGenius98K Dec 01 '22

I will never spend my ski dollars in her district.

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u/trivialgroup Colorado Dec 01 '22

I get where you're coming from, but it's actually the mountain-rural areas of the district (i.e. the ski areas) that are bright blue, and can balance the red plains-rural areas. Pitkin County (Aspen) went 79% for Frisch and Eagle County (Vail) went for him 75%. A small demographic shift from higher growth in mountain areas could flip this seat in '24.

And I doubt Republicans will oust Boebert in the primary in '24. Colorado has the Presidential primary in March but the primaries for all the other offices in June. And no major statewide offices are up next cycle, so the June primary will probably be low turnout, dominated by MAGA crazies on the Republican side. Really, the Republicans' best bet for holding this seat is to offer Boebert a cushy Fox News gig starting in January 2025.

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u/Phaelin Dec 01 '22

Colorado has the Presidential primary in March but the primaries for all the other offices in June.

I'm guessing CO isn't the only state like this, but geez that is bad form.

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u/tacmac10 Dec 01 '22

Primaries in colorado are run by the parties and are still 100-% mail in ballots.

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u/trivialgroup Colorado Dec 01 '22

All elections in Colorado—both primaries and generals—are 100% mail-in. (All active registered voters get a mail ballot, but there's also the option to vote in person or to drop off the mail ballot, as well as registering and voting in person up to election day.) There's also a caucus that's run by the parties.

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u/baddfingerz1968 Dec 01 '22

So UNBELIEVABLE we are in an age where a gun toting trumphumping moronic GED reject like BoeBoe is even considered a viable candidate, for Congress, animal control, anything. Only in today's GQP.

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u/FamousLoser Dec 01 '22

Don’t remind me that we were this close to getting rid of Bobo…

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u/Capital_Awareness_87 Dec 01 '22

The only thing stupider than Lauren Boebert is giving her a vote

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u/CheeseEWeiner Dec 01 '22

I know it’s a long shot but I really don’t want anything else for Christmas.

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u/insomniaczombiex Dec 01 '22

The fact it is/was this close is disappointing at best. This woman is an absolute idiot and a discrete l disgrace to government.

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u/dracomaster01 Dec 01 '22

absolutely insane that both Boebert and MTG won their elections. this country is absolutely fucked that people who do absolutely nothing in their positions, and who are truly awful human beings can win elections.

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u/TheCoolCellPhoneGuy New Jersey Dec 01 '22

If Frisch won on a recount I cannot even imagine the shitstorm that boebert and her supporters would start

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u/Downtown-Cover-2956 Dec 01 '22

It would be hilarious if he won

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u/TheSlapDash Dec 01 '22

I’m from Colorado and I swear to god I have no idea how she won. Unless Colorado Springs got a boom in population or something. And all those morons out in limon, rifle, and generally deserted areas. This is just insane to me

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u/ZmanB-Bills Dec 01 '22

Sadly, we have to hear her lying BS for 2 more years.

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