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u/Epic-Dude000 Oct 06 '22

Worse thing is, they only seem to whisper when talking about plot relevant things

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u/Thanos_Farming Oct 06 '22

You need to hear this whisper? Here’s some new age folk sap music to drown out your hearing.

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u/ZN4STY Oct 06 '22

I prefer the ethnically ambiguous wailing type singing. Looking at you Black Hawk Down.

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u/Foxy02016YT Oct 06 '22

Vaguely middle eastern vibe music for those kinda films

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u/cerement Oct 06 '22

Don’t forget the orange filter so you know it’s third world …

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u/Foxy02016YT Oct 06 '22

And the guy who says “welcome travelers/adventures/seamen/Americans”

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u/sharkattack85 Oct 06 '22

Arrested Development did it best

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u/N3oko Oct 07 '22

CoOoOoOincidence!!!

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u/Tundur Oct 06 '22

Dune was just some poor middle Eastern woman screaming for three hours

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u/pompousplatypus Oct 06 '22

Well, she ain't poor now

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u/NiceShotRudyWaltz Oct 06 '22

Reminded me of wonder woman.

[ANCIENT LAMENTATION MUSIC]

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u/DJCockslap Oct 07 '22

That subtitle was literally the best part of that movie.

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u/KorianHUN Oct 06 '22

And bagpipe guy!

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u/ebon94 Oct 06 '22

SCOTLAND FOREVER

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u/kinokomushroom Oct 07 '22

And it was fucking awesome

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u/F34r0fTh3D4rk Oct 06 '22

Black Hawk Down had Breton music, as in the region in France.

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u/Nasty_Rex Oct 06 '22

Damn milk drinkers

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u/Croute_de_Couilles Oct 06 '22

Everytime Wonder Woman breathes

*ancient wailing*

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u/mud263 Oct 07 '22

The music in BHD fucking slaps though.

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u/aedroogo Oct 06 '22

English accent so severe it doesn't even sound like English.

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u/bowdown2q Oct 06 '22

"We're too cheap to spring for Enya so here's some noname Irishwoman we met at a bar in New Jersey. We don't know what she's saying either, frankly we didn't know if she actually agreed to do this."

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u/SeeTheSounds Oct 06 '22

Acoustic guitar and clapping is a sign of the end times.

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u/bowdown2q Oct 06 '22

Slow, oddly terrifying,gradually louder and louder bass, sad version of a folk/pop song from the 80s or 90s.

Like a Johnny Cash version of Over the Rainbow, or a Radiohead cover of War Pigs or something.

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u/CrueltyFreeViking Oct 07 '22

One piano chord every 12 seconds as a girl whisper-sings the next line

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u/reverend-mayhem Oct 07 '22

That’s been the most annoying trend of TV/movie clips being posted to YouTube Shorts or TikTok: scene from media where one character slam dunks on another or says something really inspiring – dialogue volume? 100%. Background beat drop music? 200%.

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u/Thanos_Farming Oct 07 '22

Then it cuts to commercial 450% volume

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u/BokehJunkie Oct 06 '22

Whisper and talk in very fast, Long phrases.

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u/Blue_Calx Oct 06 '22

That’s why I have subtitles on at all times now.

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u/QuerulousPanda Oct 06 '22

It's not just whispering, it's straight up mumbling.

There have been multiple times I've had to stop and rewind on a part of a movie, because even with the volume up significantly, and the scene not even being noisy or drowned out, the words are literally unintelligible.

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u/its_raining_scotch Oct 06 '22

Just like real life

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u/Tortorak Oct 06 '22

Weird, people usually don't bother to speak to me at all

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u/MightyMorph Oct 06 '22

wish sometimes real life had subtitles the amount of times ive zoned out from listening to people talk to me only to go "uh yeah haha yeah!" and then wonder what the fuck they said.

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u/KorianHUN Oct 06 '22

I wish there was a movie with realistic dialogue... pointing at stuff trying to say what you want and constantly forgetting what shits called in your native language.

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u/_KBNS- Oct 06 '22

And the subtitles are a full second out of sync.

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u/WredditSmark Oct 06 '22

Or like HBO Max on XB1 they’re MASSIVE AND IN ALL CAPS AND WHITE TEXT ON BLACK BACKGROUND

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u/knylifsvel1937 Oct 06 '22

Or like on Prime where if you have the English captions on during an English movie and someone speaks something other than English they just don't bother to subtitle that.

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u/ALadWellBalanced Oct 06 '22

[ SPEAKS FOREIGN LANGUAGE ]

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u/TheOneTonWanton Oct 06 '22

This happens with any subtitles when the show/movie you're watching intends for people (who don't also speak that language) not to know what the characters are saying in the foreign language..

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u/[deleted] Oct 06 '22

Usually, but then sometimes it’ll say that and end up covering the actual subtitles that are part of the movie.

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u/dj_sliceosome Oct 06 '22

Prey was wild - there’s a few french lines that change the meaning of what was shown on screen. like they music and scene implies they’re about to kill a tied up dog, but the spoken french says they’re going to free him. none of it is translated, and the subtitles just foreign language.

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u/swamplurker666 Oct 06 '22

Another thing with HBO Max is if you leave them on long enough it's like they mess with the frame rate of the picture or something. Was watching Dune a couple weeks back and like 3/4 of the way through it did this. Turned off the subtitles and the picture went back to normal. It's happened to me numerous times since then and it only happens with movies.

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u/Aksi_Gu Oct 06 '22

I'll say this for amazon, the selection might be all over the place, but they have customisable subtitles with a fair few options which is pretty awesome

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u/Rock---And---Stone Oct 06 '22

That's why I leave subtitles on

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u/_BreakingGood_ Oct 06 '22

It sucks because I feel like subtitles can sometimes screw up line delivery in the movie. I never watch comedies with subtitles on because it just ruins the joke to read it before the actor delivers the line.

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u/detroiter85 Oct 06 '22

Same, I have a hard time ignoring subtitles when I don't need them if I have them on. I often catch myself just reading them instead of really watching the movie.

I've slowly just started to watch stuff on my phone with headphones in. Probably the worst way to do it for a lot of movie but I usually hear and see everything.

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u/Kablamoz Oct 06 '22

If you have a roku you can connect headphones to your TV, that's what I do for all movies, makes it so much easier to hear dialogue.

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u/EASellsShittyCopper Oct 06 '22

modern subtitle formats are capable of a lot, and just hiding the punchline is something they can do without any effort (even on old school formats)

it's just that nobody uses them beyond a simple transcription beyond what some overworked underpaid uber-for-subtitles worker transcibing the words spoken and no more (and to be fair, the overworked & underpaid part effects this quite a bit)

like, check out the subtitles on this video especially on the later on parts, or this video, and compare them to your average big-budget movie

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u/sonicon Oct 06 '22

I wish there was a subtitle option that only shows up for names, places, uncommon words/phrases, and whispers.

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u/kamenlady Oct 06 '22

The thing about subtitles, is that when the sentence ends abruptly and with ... It means that something's gonna happen at that point of the sentence.

This took the jump scare or anything surprising away for me a lot of times.

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u/kid-karma Oct 06 '22

only mildly related, but i fucking HATE in a movie when a character is speaking and then just stops themselves mid sentence because the script says they get interrupted by another character's line. WHY DID THE CHARACTER JUST STOP AND WAIT TO BE INTERRUPTED? HAVE THE INTERRUPTING ACTOR START SPEAKING EARLIER

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u/WriterV Oct 07 '22

I find this the worst in video games cause they just stop... and a second later the other person interrupts them.

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u/Legendary_Bibo Oct 07 '22

I had to turn them on for Tenet and for all of Chris Nolan's movies because he can't do audio balancing for some god damn reason.

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u/CantFindMyshirt Oct 06 '22

Nah the worst is when the explosions and voices are equalized to the voice volume and then a commercial comes on that is equalized to the explosion the original volume of the explosion.

Had a buddy blow out an apple soundbar like that a couple years ago.

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u/Rhyno08 Oct 06 '22

Subtitles man, you’ll be shocked how many Interesting tidbits of dialog you miss without them.

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u/mayorpaco Oct 06 '22

Every. DAMN. Time.

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u/Australian-Hungarian Oct 06 '22

Rebecca Ferguson was impossible to understand in dune

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u/friskyfrog Oct 06 '22

Truth! Had to watch Dune with subtitles on the first time around. Watched it again a few days later with subtitles turned off and it like I was following the plot correctly this time around.

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u/kid-karma Oct 06 '22

imussnotferferisthemnikillrrferisthelitlddth

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u/Elonlooksuptome Oct 06 '22

Maybe it's a conspiracy to make us go to the theatre?

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u/JoeGibbon Oct 06 '22

I remember reading an interview with some popular action film director. The interviewer asked the director about the terrible home audio mixes in modern movies, and he said something to the effect of "oh, we don't think about home viewers when we're mixing our audio."

They only mix audio for theater releases, even though a majority of movie views are on streaming services these days.

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u/LMFN Oct 06 '22

Nolan? He's a huge fucking asshole about it.

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u/dangerbird2 Oct 07 '22

I mean, he's not wrong. If they made a separate home video mix with compressed dynamic range for shitty flatscreen speakers, it'll piss off the guy who spent 3 grand on a surround sound system. Incidentally, that guy is the only person still buying the 4k blu-rays that actually make money for the studio post-theater

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u/SammySquareNuts Oct 07 '22

Crazy thing is... they can do both.

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u/limitlessGamingClub Oct 06 '22

at least at home we can turn on the subtitles

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u/CivilisedKitty Oct 06 '22

I think people associate whispering and quiet conversation with talking about important, intense stuff, so important plot developments are communicated between characters in that fashion 🤔

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u/SirButtflaps Oct 06 '22

The Disney+ experience for me. No better feeling than straining to hear Star Wars dialogue and then getting my eardrums blown more thoroughly than the average Death Star.

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u/MaterialCarrot Oct 06 '22

Noticed this watching Andor. My TV sound goes from 1 to 100. On Netflix about 35 does the trick, on Disney + I'm like at 90 and still not catching all the dialogue.

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u/AWF_Noone Oct 06 '22

Do you use the built in TV speakers? We recently invested in a dedicated theater sound setup and it’s night and day. The built in TV speakers are absolute garbage in comparison

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u/aedroogo Oct 06 '22

Disney+ was a big part of the reason I ended up having to just replace my soundbar with an actual receiver surround sound setup. Apparently soundbars, or at least mine, don't do a proper center channel or something? I don't know but Disney+ definitely does their sound/channels weird.

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u/Piratefluffer Oct 06 '22

Disney+ also has the worst subtitles going... black background which blocks half the screen.

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u/Zakkimatsu Oct 06 '22

Disney+ actually has some good customization with their subtitles. Next time you're on there, check the options. Font style, size, color, transparency, and background can all independently be changed.

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u/NeatoAwkward Oct 06 '22

Some of these are app dependent. Fire stick, Apple tv, Roku, browser.. Not always the same

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u/Drzhivago138 Oct 06 '22

Same with the brightness. Seems like it's always alternating between washed-out exterior scenes and interior scenes shot in someone's basement. It'd be great if modern TVs came with a physical brightness control on the side or the remote, like a laptop, rather than buried in a menu.

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u/Floodhunter345 Oct 06 '22 edited Oct 07 '22 Helpful

Amateur tip: brightness controls how bright your blacks and dark colors are, while contrast controls your bright scenes and whites (confusing, ain't it?)

So if you're losing detail in the shadows, turn up your brightness. If outdoor scenes are too washed out and you can't see, turn down your contrast.

Small edit: yes there are a lot of complexities further than just those 2 settings. I did say amateur tip; I don't actually know that much

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u/Drzhivago138 Oct 06 '22

Will try this next time, thanks.

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u/PacalEater69 Oct 06 '22

HDR video on yt mobile has the same issue. Sometimes I'm lying in bed, my phone is on absolute minimum brightness, I click on a video and I'm blasted in the face by a video playing at max brightness. Netflix looks like it can manage playing hdr with a lower peak brightness, but yt, a company employing like 50k engineers cant figure out the issue

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u/someguy3 Oct 07 '22

You can get apps that dim it more, at least on Android. I use "Blue Light Filter".

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u/woozlewuzzle29 Oct 06 '22 edited Oct 06 '22

You’re either in a tanning salon or at the bottom of the ocean.

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u/_ChillboBaggins_ Oct 06 '22

Game of thrones did this and everyone complained, then they did it again in this new series. I don't think it's a coincidence that their heavy cgi episodes, like the zombie winterfell battle and this last episode of the blonde kid riding the dragon, were so dark you couldn't even make out what was going on. I guess the cgi looks better in the dark, but it's so dark you can't see it anyway.

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u/FoppyOmega Oct 06 '22

My brother used to watch LotR while I was trying to sleep. He'd crank it up at the quiet talking parts and then suddenly BAM Nazgul shriek

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u/Alarming-Cow299 Oct 06 '22 Helpful

Why were you trying to sleep when LoTR was on?

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u/FoppyOmega Oct 06 '22

Back in the day it was basically never not on

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u/biznatch11 Oct 06 '22

In university we had a pirated satellite dish and had all the pay per view channels unlocked, this was before video on demand or streaming. They'd have 2 or 3 channels dedicated to each movie with offset start times so you could watch it mostly whenever you wanted. We had FotR on almost every day I think I watched it like 50 times in the few months it was available.

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u/RamenJunkie Oct 07 '22

I always preferred the College Cable Access channel myself, just an endless loop of bizzare College Stoner skit comedy.

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u/VooDooOperator Oct 07 '22

Ah, the DirecTV card pirating gig. Those were the days. Watched The Matrix so many times. Bliss. That and channel 598…

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u/foosbabaganoosh Oct 06 '22

[Fellowship ends]

“Ahh finally, time to sleep”

[Two Towers begins]

“…I got time”

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u/awakeosleeper514 Oct 06 '22

This is the real issue here.

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u/GreatJobKeepitUp Oct 07 '22

You can sleep without LoTR on?

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u/hungchang Oct 07 '22

I just watched return of the king on prime last night. I played the volume game for 3 fucking hours

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u/JohnnyMelon Oct 06 '22

I have my smart tv since four years now and just discovered that you can adjust the sound to raise speech and lower explosion and music.

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u/mayorpaco Oct 06 '22

Yeah, the dynamic range options. They work like half the time though and its such a pain in the ass to switch back. I just wish they made a version of the movie you can just click on that says "I dont live in movie theater"

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u/Gushinggrannies4u Oct 06 '22

It’s absolutely not going to happen; they want the home experience to be less enjoyable so you go to the theaters.

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u/mayorpaco Oct 06 '22

I heard that theory too

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u/Gushinggrannies4u Oct 06 '22

Most MAJOR movies reap 100% of the ticket sales for the first few weeks, which is why movie snacks are so pricey - it’s essentially an industry propped up by selling overpriced popcorn. It’s a crazy good deal for Hollywood.

And it’s super easy to hide behind the whole “aRtIsTiC vIsIoN” complaint that home speakers would detract from the experience.

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u/xittditdyid Oct 06 '22

Movie theaters are too goddam loud also.

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u/[deleted] Oct 06 '22

Did you ever see a musical in the theatres? I swear man I watched most of The Greatest Showman with my hands on my ears. I think they made it super loud to try to disguise the bad audio quality. Still noticed tho.

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u/snakefinn Oct 06 '22

Exactly! Some theaters and movies are extra bad. Like I shouldn't have to wear earplugs to watch a fuckin movie without getting a headache

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u/dilettante92 Oct 06 '22

Which is fucking garbage, I have a premium sound system and the dynamic range is just too fucking wide unless you squash the signal to hell or turn it up loud enough so your ears bleed during the action sequences. A huge pet peeve for sure

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u/johntheswan Oct 06 '22

What’s more aggravating is that the majority of movie theaters sound like shit too! Im sorry but a bunch of 25 year old blown out klipsches and a flabby, boomy subwoofer doesn’t hold a candle to a well calibrated two channel system. Hell most movies need to be squashed to even sound good on hifi headphones. It’s genuinely absurd. I feel like deaf people are doing the mastering for movies nowadays.

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u/ialsohaveadobro Oct 06 '22

I heard it's just that the sound was mixed to be heard in theaters and they don't bother to remix it. Which could fit with that same theory, actually.

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u/NRMusicProject Oct 06 '22

It's the most likely theory. There's no reason to remix the audio if it doesn't really add much value to the companies. They'll still get the media income.

I've always toyed with the idea of getting a hardware compressor, but consumer products don't really gel with professional audio products as easily anymore.

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u/VastatorPopulus Oct 06 '22

How true actually is this?

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u/egyeager Oct 06 '22

Unlikely I think. It's more likely sound mixing is done for the theaters and then they just port over the theater cut to streaming.

An example would Tenet. Movie is audible on IMAX because it was made for it, non IMAX the sound quality was shit because they just ported the IMAX mixing to non IMAX equipment.

However - as an audience member I sincerely would like explosions to be quieter in the theater. If it isn't like 1917 there is no reason to have them be as loud as they are. Period accurate war movies are the only exception and even then there needs to be a narrative tie in. John wick 4? Turn. That. Shit. Down!!!

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u/WredditSmark Oct 06 '22

I saw this movie that was basically John Wick but in Berlin with a female lead and it was no joke the loudest film I’ve EVER seen. Louder then a concert to be honest, shit was just painful ended up putting toilet paper into my ear to turn it down a bit

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u/Mr_Stillian Oct 06 '22

Atomic Blonde? Totally agree

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u/tdeasyweb Oct 06 '22 edited Oct 06 '22

I think that the sound is just overengineered now. TV's want to give you 10 options to look good, sound systems do the same, and none of them can fully account for the environment and acoustics of where the TV is setup.

EDIT: Since people are misunderstanding, my point isn't that people are setting things up incorrectly. I'm saying that each layer of hardware and software (including the video itself) has introduced so many variables, that a consistent sound mix that works universally is now almost impossible.

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u/shea241 Oct 06 '22

these "it's intentional to make you _____!" comments are getting out of control

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u/tansreer Oct 06 '22

Nah, happens with straight to streaming stuff too. Check out some disney+. It's just tuned for people with expensive, large-room, 9.2 audio not poors like us... because the people tuning the audio are audiophiles with good setups.

It's like how the finale of game of thrones looked dark and moody on ideal setups, but was pitch black for a lot of folks on the lower end.

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u/williad95 Oct 06 '22

My soundbar basically has this option. Click once for its voice mode, and once again to turn it off. Works like magic for action movies—honestly, surprisingly well.

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u/asianabsinthe Oct 06 '22

Still doesn't help with Interstellar

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u/275MPHFordGT40 Oct 06 '22

DUN, DUN DUN, DUN DUN, Piano intensifies

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u/psivenn Oct 06 '22

The IMAX I first saw this movie in was actually the worst mix I've ever encountered for any film/format. The music was deafening and dialogue barely audible.

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u/rodentfacedisorder Oct 06 '22

Please tell me how to do this

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u/mayorpaco Oct 06 '22

Look up your tv model and then look up dynamic range options. A lot of modern tvs are implementing this, but sometimes it sucks, sometimes it works.

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u/RanebowVeins Oct 06 '22

My TV had this setting but it’s atrociously implemented and would vary volume wildly between scenes.

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u/OIAgent Oct 06 '22

Closed captions help.

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u/-UMBRA_- Oct 06 '22

i wish they had non def CC.. like for people that want to read the words but not read "soft music plays" "explosion" "dog barks" etc. lol

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u/banandananagram Oct 06 '22

Those are some of my favorite captions. “Peeing forcefully,” “wet squelching footsteps,” “fart sound auto-tune remixed to techno music plays”

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u/IaintGoinLie50Tyson Oct 06 '22 edited Oct 06 '22

Watching Dr. Who, during the intro it says "[Theme music plays]", I'm like, what deaf person knows the doctor who theme song!? It should read [Weeee woooo weee woo woo] etc.

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u/ialsohaveadobro Oct 06 '22

Sorry, that's oo-WOOOO-oooooo (dunna de dunna de dunna de dun dunna) WEEEEE-ooo-YOOOOooo

Edit: P.S. Delia Derbyshire is awesome

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u/Archercrash Oct 06 '22

Sound almost like you’re doing the X-Files song too.

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u/bowdown2q Oct 06 '22

Da da da DA daaaaaaaa

Da da da da DA daaaaaa

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u/Sebfofun Oct 06 '22

Its more that they dont know if there is narration on the screen or not

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u/AnarchistBorganism Oct 06 '22

My favorite is where it overlays [Speaking Spanish] on top of the Spanish language subtitles so you can't read them.

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u/amandaggogo Oct 06 '22

You may like r/sadlygokarts then.

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u/PizzaBraves Oct 06 '22

"Eldritch humming" lol

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u/Ecstatic_Carpet Oct 06 '22

Some of those make me wonder though, does fart sound mean anything to deaf people? Like is it actually helping to tell the story for them?

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u/wra1th42 Oct 06 '22

Those are called subtitles, as opposed to closed captions. I usually download from subscene.com, the ones marked non-HI

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u/-UMBRA_- Oct 06 '22

interesting. that work with a tv tho? laptop i use headphones so i dont have the sound issue

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u/wra1th42 Oct 06 '22

Depends on your setup. Not Netflix or whatever. I use /r/Kodi but have also heard of /r/PleX

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u/skyy0731 Oct 06 '22

God I love cosplaying as a deaf person because Hollywood can't mix audio

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u/dalarsenist Oct 06 '22

I'm hard of hearing and this is mandatory. Especially when it's GOT or HOD and the dialogue is bizarre.

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u/dramamine0 Oct 06 '22

It does really help you follow along with the stories. I watch everything with closed captioning.

The thing about closed captioning is that it ruins the actor’s timing. The comedic and or dramatic timing of an actor’s dialogue gets ruined when I read the lines before they’re spoken.

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u/OptimalCheesecake527 Oct 06 '22

You also have to make a conscious effort to not spend the entire time staring at the text, to me that’s an even bigger deal.

But when people are talking about closed captioning they mean subtitles right? Closed captioning is significantly worse. Really distracting.

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u/Frangiblepani Oct 06 '22

I watched a Korean series with English voice dubbing and it was actually jarring at first how loud the dialogue was, but I really appreciated not having to squint my ears to hear the voices over the background sounds.

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u/Minttunator Oct 06 '22

I hope you don't mind that I will steal the expression "squint my ears" and use it from now on!

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u/BplusHuman Oct 06 '22

I remember when I watched the series Tales from the Loop early in the pandemic. I kept telling my friends how amazing it was and how it's "not loud". I felt like I just got out of abusive relationship.

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u/_awake Oct 06 '22

I’ll have to rewatch the entire series I think. It was good anyway so I might simply watch it again.

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u/basec0m Oct 06 '22

You forgot, "it's all black, I can't see shit."

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u/Sam-Porter-Bridges Oct 07 '22

It's so frustrating. Movie studios will insist on making the image darker (because it's cheaper to CG in a darker environment), but then refuse to increase the bitrate of their streaming service or improve their compression algorithms, so you're stuck with horrible, awful picture quality in the end. I tried to watch The Batman on HBO Max on my OLED. Every time it rained (and it rains a lot), the entire picture just looked like shit. Ended up stopping 25 minutes in, pirated the 4K Blu-ray of the movie, and watched that instead. Infinitely better.

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u/old_man_nicodemus Oct 06 '22

also the movie is super dark to the point where its hard to see sometimes

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u/AwHellNaw Oct 06 '22

This why I mostly watch 90s movies. Sometime in the last 15 years they decided shooting during the day and outdoors was for too uncool. To make matters worse now the preferred color scheme is "muted gray". Even outdoor daytime shots look like the worst day in winter.

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u/TheLaughingMelon Oct 07 '22

I remember during the last few HP (Harry Potter) movies literally everything was grey.

No colour, just varying shades of grey. On top of that, everything was incredibly dark and you couldn't see a damn thing.

I read somewhere that this was actually intentional as the movies progressively lose colur and become darker towards the end because it symbolises losing hope and the upcoming fight with Voldermort.

Even in the first movie (Philosopher's Stone) you can see the WB (Warner Bros) logo is bright golden and the sky is really blue.

But in the last few movies the sky is black and the logo is also grey/black.

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u/logitaunt Oct 06 '22

Better Call Saul went really hard on this in the last season for the b&w shots.

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u/Ok-Palpitation4941 Oct 07 '22

I know you kid, but funnily enough, what I love about Better Call Saul is that it's the exact opposite of this trend. Very audible dialogues and brightly and beautifully shot. Just for that it gets 10/10 in my books.

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u/Minimob0 Oct 06 '22

The newest Batman film had that problem. There were times you couldn't see anything.

Game of Thrones finished years ago, but the final season was nearly unwatchable with how dark everything was.

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u/Shirt_Royal Oct 06 '22

My local cinema reconstructed their theaters to fit more people - in the process they also increased screen size, but did not put in more powerful projectors. So the same light output is now spread across a larger area. Consequently, the picture looks much darker. Now I only go see a movie if it's played in their smallest theater. Can't see shit in the other theaters.

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u/-UMBRA_- Oct 06 '22 edited Oct 06 '22

Same with tv shows expect with COMMERCIALS!!! why are they even louder than the fucking explosions?? lol

And then CC you have to read things like "dog barks" "soft music plays" wish there was a words only option for it

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u/CivilisedKitty Oct 06 '22

Channels air commercials at a higher volume than the programming to catch the attention of the viewer

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u/MaterialCarrot Oct 06 '22

It just catches the attention of my mute button.

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u/-UMBRA_- Oct 06 '22

yeah i figured lol. but damn they are like 100% louder tho. its so annoying when you have it turned up to hear what people are saying then "BUY THIS THING' all of a sudden lol

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u/PM_ME_LEAKERS Oct 06 '22

Doesn't work. It makes me unreasonably angry and I mute the TV.

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u/fudge_friend Oct 06 '22

Thank you to all the deaf people who fought for closed captioning decades ago so I could enjoy every single movie and tv show made after 2010.

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u/Hot_Box8010 Oct 06 '22

You should also add the abrupt, loud sex scenes that your neighbors can hear because you can't lower the volume fast enough.

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u/joeygreco1985 Oct 06 '22 Silver

If you're running a 5.1 or more channel setup, raise the volume of the center channel since most dialog will be output through that speaker.

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u/Lurker_Since_Forever Oct 06 '22

It's wild, I recently bought a nice 10 year old receiver and a couple old but high end speakers, to eventually build out a surround system. I have no center channel, but even on 2.1, everything sounds so clear compared to the TV speakers. It's as if high quality components with really high dynamic range actually matter.

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u/MaterialCarrot Oct 06 '22

Cause about 15 years ago they figured out that sound doesn't sell TV's, picture does. So it all goes into the bright shiny picture and the sound usually is worse than an afterthought.

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u/klapaucjusz Oct 06 '22

Or rather, it was way easier to fit cheap but decent speakers into fat CRTs or even early thick LCDs than in a modern super thin TV, where you don't even know where the speakers are.

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u/monstercello Oct 06 '22

I started out with a couple of cheap bookshelf speakers and a very basic receiver/subwoofer combo I found at Goodwill for $15. Made a world of difference.

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u/JustOneMorePuff Oct 07 '22

This complaint is because people don’t have calibrated systems with a center channel. I have a nice system granted, but I can watch things quietly or loudly, or in night mode, and never struggle with hearing dialogue. People just are using crappy tv speakers and complaining when the reality is that they have crappy lofi speakers.

Worst part, wait for studios to start making audio sound like crap because these people complain.

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u/mcsquirf Oct 06 '22

this is Tenet lmao

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u/DudeJesse Oct 06 '22

I watched this movie with closed captions and still have no idea what they said.

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u/Gsteel11 Oct 06 '22

Just Nolan in general. Some are worse than others.

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u/Jedi-Ethos Oct 07 '22

BWWWAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH

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u/DarthMutter8 Oct 06 '22

The reason why I watch everything with subtitles or closed captioning

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u/venatorrrrr Oct 06 '22

*Christopher Nolan starterpack

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u/Def-tones Oct 06 '22

Can't hear shit. I get my story from the subtitles.

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u/Jaksmack Oct 06 '22

I watch with the remote in my hand and constantly have to adjust.. either I can't hear dialogue or my SO is yelling to turn it down.

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u/meesersloth Oct 06 '22

Reminds of of when movie previews kept using that BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA sound from like 2009-2015

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u/J_G_Cuntworth Oct 06 '22

There are modes on TVs and receivers that can even out the range(basically compression). But sound is designed with peaks for a reason. Whispers really are quiet and gunshots really are loud. The thing is this effect is best in theaters with perfectly calibrated speakers and volume.

I remember seeing Dark Knight in IMAX, and there's a part in the beginning where Scarecrow's gangsters are talking. The batmobile then shoots an explosive, and it was so loud there was an audible wave of shock throughout the crowd(also shared by the henchmen onscreen). I know this just outright annoys people, but the effect is there for immersion. If you were talking in a parking structure and all of a sudden an explosion rang out near you, it'd be pretty jarring.

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u/cerevant Oct 06 '22

See if your TV or streaming box has a "Night" mode (for sound), or a setting for dynamic range.

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u/_awake Oct 06 '22

The night mode is supposed to compress dynamic range, right? I don’t have the feeling that it did too much honestly :/

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u/EvilDarkCow Oct 07 '22

Ah yes, piss poor sound mixing because clearly everybody has a theater-quality surround sound system in their bedroom.

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u/That75252Expensive Oct 06 '22

You forgot falling asleep during the first few scenes.

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u/kevster2717 Oct 06 '22

This is why I will always wait it’s uploaded to streaming services for subtitles

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u/VastatorPopulus Oct 06 '22

Why can’t anyone fix this problem

It’s 2022 ffs

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u/SeansModernLife Oct 06 '22

Set your TV to stereo if you don't have a home theater system, not 5.1

If you have a home theater system, learn how it works

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u/potato_pineapple Oct 06 '22

Closed captioning is a must in my house because of this

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u/275MPHFordGT40 Oct 06 '22

This is a Christopher Nolan thing. Also get a sound bar, it will help.

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u/IAMA_Cucumber_AMA Oct 06 '22

Sound bar is not the solution here lol

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u/Lee-Radx Oct 06 '22

I'm glad it's not just me...

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u/Blueberry_Mancakes Oct 06 '22

They key is turn the movie up until dialog is legible. Then the sound effects will be 500% louder and your spouse will tell you to continuously turn it down and then back up every 30 seconds.

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u/HeartCatchHana Oct 06 '22

That's why I put subtitles on everything I watch.

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u/Julian_1_2_3_4_5 Oct 06 '22

get a soundbar, some better speakers than your tv's integrated one or some better headphones, all those options won't cost much,but especially headphones will drastically improve your experience